I have an ODay 25 with a 150% genoa which the family just hates when we have to come about. I am thinking about going to a 100% jib for simplicity but am curious what the trade off in power will be. Does anyone have any experience with this?
Experience with 100% Jib
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Both are best
Hi Chris; I have both a 150 and a 110 on my 1976 O'day 25. The 150 is great for those lazy summer days with light winds. The 110 is best when the wind gest over 10kts. The boat handles better with the 110, but I couldn't imagine sailing without both of them on board.
Hi Chris; I have both a 150 and a 110 on my 1976 O'day 25. The 150 is great for those lazy summer days with light winds. The 110 is best when the wind gest over 10kts. The boat handles better with the 110, but I couldn't imagine sailing without both of them on board.
Ditto To What Corey Said
I think that Corey is right. It depends on what you want to do. I have a 170% Genoa and a 100% Jib. They are both setup for my furler, but, I'm a cruiser, not a racer, it's just easier to sail with the 100% for what I want to do. Also, I've scared my wife when flying the 170%. I think that it tends to overpower the boat if you get strong, unexpected, wind gusts.
I think that Corey is right. It depends on what you want to do. I have a 170% Genoa and a 100% Jib. They are both setup for my furler, but, I'm a cruiser, not a racer, it's just easier to sail with the 100% for what I want to do. Also, I've scared my wife when flying the 170%. I think that it tends to overpower the boat if you get strong, unexpected, wind gusts.
Try a 135
I put a 135 on a furler this year, having previously used a 100 and 135 hank on. Wife is very happy, is useful for most situations. I opted for a 135 rather than a 150 to (hopefully) retain shape when reefed. This has been a good setup on our O'Day 25.
I put a 135 on a furler this year, having previously used a 100 and 135 hank on. Wife is very happy, is useful for most situations. I opted for a 135 rather than a 150 to (hopefully) retain shape when reefed. This has been a good setup on our O'Day 25.
135% on furler
We have a 135% on our furler on our 25 and love it. Reefs down very nicely to 100% when needed. If we need more sail in light winds we furl the sail and fly our cruising spinnaker.
We have a 135% on our furler on our 25 and love it. Reefs down very nicely to 100% when needed. If we need more sail in light winds we furl the sail and fly our cruising spinnaker.
why do they hate it??
Chris, why do they hate it?? Is it the power and heeling or the trimming?? The winds tend to be light in the summer and the 150% most certainly will move you along quicker than a 100% jib on those light wind days. A good compromise would be the 135% genny.
Chris, why do they hate it?? Is it the power and heeling or the trimming?? The winds tend to be light in the summer and the 150% most certainly will move you along quicker than a 100% jib on those light wind days. A good compromise would be the 135% genny.
On ours...
We also have a 135 on a roller furler.With light winds it really helps. I too would think you would lose a lot of drive.Just what is it they hate?
We also have a 135 on a roller furler.With light winds it really helps. I too would think you would lose a lot of drive.Just what is it they hate?
Chris, a 130 might do it ...
Like the others, what is about the 150 they don't like. I like single handing because I know what I need to do to make the tack. It is all feel and understanding. Since my wife has taken to sailing, I have to explain things. Problem.. I feel things. My wife doesn't. So, I have made some lets call them rules as to tacking. So after calling ready about, #1 the trimmed sheet does not come off the winch until the jib luffs. #2 the old leeward sheet shall have the slack removed. #3 when the sail luffs, the leeward (soon to be windward) sheet is carefully trimmed to allow the wind to tack the sail. If it is pulled through, it fouls on itself. #4 In high wind pull like crazy and get it cleated. #5 in light wind be patient and wait for it to come to the leeward side then trim. #6 make sure that the tack is positive. If you do not come about through 90 to 100 degrees, the sail will luff and never make it through the slot. The 150+ genny is one that you have to be aware of. In good wind, it will tack right away provided that the boat has moved through atleast 90 degrees. In a light wind, that process is slowed down so you can't rush the sail passing from one side to the next. There is hope... My wife actually feels it on occasion and when she does, she trims better than I do. Hope this helps! r.w.landau
Like the others, what is about the 150 they don't like. I like single handing because I know what I need to do to make the tack. It is all feel and understanding. Since my wife has taken to sailing, I have to explain things. Problem.. I feel things. My wife doesn't. So, I have made some lets call them rules as to tacking. So after calling ready about, #1 the trimmed sheet does not come off the winch until the jib luffs. #2 the old leeward sheet shall have the slack removed. #3 when the sail luffs, the leeward (soon to be windward) sheet is carefully trimmed to allow the wind to tack the sail. If it is pulled through, it fouls on itself. #4 In high wind pull like crazy and get it cleated. #5 in light wind be patient and wait for it to come to the leeward side then trim. #6 make sure that the tack is positive. If you do not come about through 90 to 100 degrees, the sail will luff and never make it through the slot. The 150+ genny is one that you have to be aware of. In good wind, it will tack right away provided that the boat has moved through atleast 90 degrees. In a light wind, that process is slowed down so you can't rush the sail passing from one side to the next. There is hope... My wife actually feels it on occasion and when she does, she trims better than I do. Hope this helps! r.w.landau
O25 Genoas
Okay, now I'm confused. I have a hank-on 150% and a working jib. I've only used the 150% a few times because it's a handful to raise and lower, but I like the extra speed on light days. I was going to upgrade to a CDI furler this year and buy a new genoa. Is everyone saying that a 135% will be more comfortable to use? I too am not a racer. How much do I lose by stepping down from the 150 to a 135? I know that reefing a 150 to a 100 is never ideal, but is reefing a 135 much better?
Okay, now I'm confused. I have a hank-on 150% and a working jib. I've only used the 150% a few times because it's a handful to raise and lower, but I like the extra speed on light days. I was going to upgrade to a CDI furler this year and buy a new genoa. Is everyone saying that a 135% will be more comfortable to use? I too am not a racer. How much do I lose by stepping down from the 150 to a 135? I know that reefing a 150 to a 100 is never ideal, but is reefing a 135 much better?
Thanks All
All, Thanks for your help. The general consensus is to go with a 130 or 135. For those that have them, where do your sheets lead to? For my 150 the sheets lead to a block on a track near the cockpit winches which does not appear to extend far enough forward to mak a good lead for a smaller sail. The 150 is overpowering the boat in anything over 10 knots of breeze, not in the technincal sense, but it becomes really uncomfortable for my family and is difficult to tack. Some of that is the fact that the sail is a bit blown out and a newer, flatter, sail will help. The beer can racing I do on this boat has very little hard core up wind work, the legs are a mile or less, usually more reaching and running. Your help is appreciated
All, Thanks for your help. The general consensus is to go with a 130 or 135. For those that have them, where do your sheets lead to? For my 150 the sheets lead to a block on a track near the cockpit winches which does not appear to extend far enough forward to mak a good lead for a smaller sail. The 150 is overpowering the boat in anything over 10 knots of breeze, not in the technincal sense, but it becomes really uncomfortable for my family and is difficult to tack. Some of that is the fact that the sail is a bit blown out and a newer, flatter, sail will help. The beer can racing I do on this boat has very little hard core up wind work, the legs are a mile or less, usually more reaching and running. Your help is appreciated
If you add a furler, or just buy new sails,
The sail maker should be able to cut the sail with a shorter leech and longer foot to get the percentages right. That will raise the clew so that it can be sheeted to the genoa tracks. I have a 150 that am probably going to recut because the clew is too low and the track is just short of proper trim in most wind conditions. I do like 150's. r.w.landau
The sail maker should be able to cut the sail with a shorter leech and longer foot to get the percentages right. That will raise the clew so that it can be sheeted to the genoa tracks. I have a 150 that am probably going to recut because the clew is too low and the track is just short of proper trim in most wind conditions. I do like 150's. r.w.landau
Newbee needs book on jibs and sails
My 79 Oday 22 fixer-uppper with mast head rig, came with what looks like a regular jib and a genoa whose bottom edge measures about 14 ft. I need a good book on details about jibs and sails, names of their parts, ways to fasten sails to forestays, mast and boom and how to rig and use them, any suggestions? David S
My 79 Oday 22 fixer-uppper with mast head rig, came with what looks like a regular jib and a genoa whose bottom edge measures about 14 ft. I need a good book on details about jibs and sails, names of their parts, ways to fasten sails to forestays, mast and boom and how to rig and use them, any suggestions? David S
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