Excessive Weather Helm

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May 27, 2004
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- - GLYC, St. Clair Shores, MI
My boat seems to have a bit to much weather helm. If I understand rig tunning correctly, should I consider raking the mast aft? Thanks.
 
Jun 21, 2004
129
- - Westbrook, CT
No

We've had this thread a million times, but I guess when it happens to you it's the first time. If you rake the mast aft, what are you really doing? You are moving the center of effort of the mainsail aft, right? That will give you more weather helm, not less. Why? Because it increases the moment arm between the center of lateral resistance and the center of effort of the mainsail. A longer moment means more torque, and that torque is what you feel as weather helm. Try simpler things before you make changes to the standing rigging... 1. Know how to flatten your sails by tightening the correct controls, or even bending the mast if you have an adjustable backstay. Bending the mast is different than raking it. 2. Know how to reduce the angle of attack of your sails, with and without adding twist. 3. Know how to twist your sails to spill excess lateral force, with and without changing the angle of attack. 4. Reef the main. Remember Ockham's Razor, which could be paraphrased as: don't look for complicated answers until you've exhausted the simple ones.
 
Jun 4, 2004
844
Hunter 28.5 Tolchester, MD
Sail Trim & Rig Tuning

Since other factors affect weather helm, think about the wind speed at which the problem starts, what size headsail you have, what type of keel, and/or the condition of the sails. Start out flatening and de-powering the main by tightening the outhaul to the max with just enough main halyard tension to keep the luff straight but not pull the draft forward. If you have a backstay adjuster tighten it next to flaten the main further. Trim the jib flat with all teltales breaking at the same time. The flatened main combined with a 135% or smaller Genoa should be a good combination up to 15-18 knots windspeed close hauled, after that tie in the first reef to balance the boat and reduce weather helm. Drop the traveler down to leward in the puffs, and change down to a 110 jib as the wind increases. Hopefully you can flaten and trim the sails to have one 'spoke' of weather helm on the wheel. If not, try to tighten the headstay and loosen the backstay(s) to bring the mast more vertical but with the same prebend in the mast. If that still does not do the trick, you might try a little more bend in the mast by tightening the upper stays. This will take some of the depth out of the main the same way a backstay adjuster works. If your boat was produced with both a shoal draft and deep draft version, the shoal draft may promote weather helm earlier because it's center of lateral resistance is further aft, therefore the mast should be almost vertical with very little or no rake. If you've tried a this and still have too much weather helm, you may need a new mainsail or at least a re-cut main.
 

Royce

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May 17, 2004
8
Hunter 30_74-83 Corpus Christi, TX.
How old is your main sail?

When I replaced mine I noticed a reduction in weather helm due to the fact that I was able to flatten the sail. My old main was just "blown out" and no amount of tweaking could flatten it. Try a new set of sail if your's are so baggy that you cannot flatten it first.
 
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