Evicted!

Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
you have lead a sheltered life seems like ...my marina has inadequate power , no ladders for getting on the dock..and a pump out that may and may not work and all they worry about is there keyless lock on the gate....price is the only thing they have as a draw and being close to town
 
Nov 7, 2012
678
1978 Catalina 30 Wilbur-by-the-Sea
As an aside, at our old marina the only person I ever saw swimming besides hired divers was that guy the police were chasing....
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
my marina has inadequate power , no ladders for getting on the dock..and a pump out that may and may not work and all they worry about is there keyless lock on the gate....price is the only thing they have as a draw and being close to town
Sounds like it might be ripe for development. :cool: A condo with a slip ... anyone? :lastweek:
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
you have lead a sheltered life seems like
No, I think that I have an instinct for associating only with quality people (that's why I hang out here :cool:). My mother gave me advise long ago that never fails to stick ... she said "if you want value, pay for quality".
If you consistently hang out with the low bidder, you're going to get burned more often than not.
 
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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Roland, you make it sound as if you took it upon yourself to post this notice without discussing it first with marina management. Not knowing the marina or their facilities maintenance program, I might not blame them for being offended, depending on how seriously they may or may not treat this issue. Don't you think it would have been a good idea to question and discuss this with the DM first ... before posting warnings and alarming your neighbors? I take it, there has not been an incident at your marina concerning ESD to date.

Indeed. And maybe this has been around once or twice in the thread already, but a renter taking this kind of personal initiative creates an aura of culpability if anything were to happen. Marinas (and their lawyers) are humorless when it comes to stuff like this. It's THEIR business. You mind yours. Let them mind theirs.
 
Apr 11, 2012
324
Cataina 400 MK II Santa Cruz
"... I've never been accused of being diplomatic …"

Perhaps this was one of those times?
 
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kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
Glad I read this thread. I was going to post a statement on the bulletin board here at work that my boss is a worthless, overpaid, p.o.s. A-hole. Even though all true, I bet I would have been briskly escorted out the door.
 
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Kermit

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Jul 31, 2010
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AquaCat 12.5 17342 Wateree Lake, SC
Glad I read this thread. I was going to post a statement on the bulletin board here at work that my boss is a worthless, overpaid, p.o.s. A-hole. Even though all true, I bet I would have been briskly escorted out the door.
The truth shall set you free!
 
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Nov 13, 2013
723
Catalina 34 Tacoma
ESD seems to be a very rare event with conflicting evidence that it occurs only in fresh water. I don't know of many boaters that are unaware a marina full of boats is likely to have some boats leaking current into the water. I suspect marinas take action when tenants complain about eroding zinc or actively monitor stray current. I commend you for trying to warn other boaters but through hearsay, your message was misinterpreted. It would be interesting to hear how marina divers protect themselves against this problem. If I had to go in the water near the marina, I would go in slowly anticipating one would feel the electrical current before you become imobilized.
I'll bet that family from Minnesota would have wished Disney would have put a warning sign about alligators in the lake, but everyone knows there are alligators in Florida right?
There are all sorts of threats we are exposed to every day. Ever seen a sign about the danger of lightning? I've never seen a warning sign at marinas cautioning of the dangers of ESD either. It would be bad for business if your marina was the only one. Unfortunately, marina owners will not voluntarily put signs up unless they are compelled to do so. Like the warning signs on boats of the dangers of carbon monoxide. There just haven't been enough accidents to pass a new law.
 
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MitchM

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Jan 20, 2005
1,031
Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
hmm let me understand.. you committed the etiquette breach of not courteously telling marina management that people could electrocuted in this marina. so you possibly saved them a few million - dollar lawsuits and a huge jump in insurance premiums for lawsuit costs. in return, you have been evicted...

if you are in a city or government marina they have no right to evict you for expressing an opinion about a dangerous condition of property (US constitution 1st amendment , call the ACLU and Boat US ) do you have newspapers down near your marina ? i'm sure they'd be interested...
 

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
The truth shall set you free!
Probably why we have a policy that all bulletin board material must be approved by HR before posting. Maybe that marina should adopt the same policy?...........maybe they already had?
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
hmm let me understand.. you committed the etiquette breach of not courteously telling marina management that people could electrocuted in this marina. so you possibly saved them a few million - dollar lawsuits and a huge jump in insurance premiums for lawsuit costs. in return, you have been evicted...
Yet another example where a bystander (ignorantly) leaps to the conclusion that the marina is callously at fault for endangering the public. And you wonder why they got pissed off when a customer took it upon himself to cry "fire" in a packed auditorium (so to speak)?
 
Nov 2, 2015
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hunter 30 bat n.c.
What are you saying the marinawas not wrong for kicking out someone that had been a loyal customer for 20yrs? Heck he spent acouple hundred thousand in dock fees! There is no excusefir it
 
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Nov 7, 2012
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1978 Catalina 30 Wilbur-by-the-Sea
Glad I read this thread. I was going to post a statement on the bulletin board here at work that my boss is a worthless, overpaid, p.o.s. A-hole. Even though all true, I bet I would have been briskly escorted out the door.
you would have,been fine as long as it had the correct TPS cover sheet.
 
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Jun 19, 2004
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Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
I'm so blessed and fortunate that I have the luxury to keep my boat in my backyard at my dock on my boat lift out of the water and not have to deal with a bunch of crap like this from a DM. I would think the management and ownership would and should have appreciated a serious matter being brought to their attention. Sounds like some fragile ego got frayed. Enjoy your new spot Roland and thanks for sharing with us.
 
May 17, 2004
6,150
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
cry "fire" in a packed auditorium
Not a great analogy. Better analogy might be that he saw cigarette ashes being dropped on the floor of a crowded theater and said "hey, that could cause a fire". Then got kicked out of the theater because management "had it under control" even though they only had a type c fire extinguisher.
 
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Oct 26, 2008
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Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Except that Roland presented no evidence that the marina was actually at fault for or negligent about anything related to ESD. Ya'll are just leaping to assumptions for which there is no evidence. As for why the owner didn't want Roland for a customer anymore ... who knows? That's his business. He must have had his reasons.