Am considering an O'Day 22 that's been in storage for at least 5yrs - a '74. Have been reviewing this site and others for info, but thought I might ask for some tips on evaluating this boat. Asking price is $2100 with sails & trailer. Current owner got it in some debt settlement, runs a local sailing school, and says he might throw in a old working outboard and possibly help procure a mooring in chicago's harbor system. I guess the question is - How do I know it'll float and/or isn't going to be endless headaches? Is a survey worth the expense? Several O'Day threads have been helpful (freeze thaw cycles, soggy floors, etc), but any other thoughts? Thanks.
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Mike
Survey was helpful for me
I had a survey done on my Oday 23 before purchase. Even though I had read "how to buy a sailboat" books, reviewed website info, etc., the surveyor found a few things that I didn't and couldn't have. He charged me a special low rate because of the simplicity of the boat's systems, and made me far more confident about my purchase than I would have been otherwise. One thing to check on with all Odays of that size is the soundness of the interior bulkhead. The chain plates for the shrouds run through the deck and attach to the wood of the bulkhead; because of the constant working of the plates, they can be the site of deck leaks. If water runs to the bulkhead, it can rot, and you can't have your shrouds attached to a rotten bulkhead. Replacing these bulkheads is a big pain. If they look like they have suffered water damage, I'd stay clear of the boat unless you are a skilled woodworker with a lot of time. If the boat checks out, that is a nice price for this model with a trailer and outboard.
I had a survey done on my Oday 23 before purchase. Even though I had read "how to buy a sailboat" books, reviewed website info, etc., the surveyor found a few things that I didn't and couldn't have. He charged me a special low rate because of the simplicity of the boat's systems, and made me far more confident about my purchase than I would have been otherwise. One thing to check on with all Odays of that size is the soundness of the interior bulkhead. The chain plates for the shrouds run through the deck and attach to the wood of the bulkhead; because of the constant working of the plates, they can be the site of deck leaks. If water runs to the bulkhead, it can rot, and you can't have your shrouds attached to a rotten bulkhead. Replacing these bulkheads is a big pain. If they look like they have suffered water damage, I'd stay clear of the boat unless you are a skilled woodworker with a lot of time. If the boat checks out, that is a nice price for this model with a trailer and outboard.
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Mike
Survey was helpful for me
I had a survey done on my Oday 23 before purchase. Even though I had read "how to buy a sailboat" books, reviewed website info, etc., the surveyor found a few things that I didn't and couldn't have. He charged me a special low rate because of the simplicity of the boat's systems, and made me far more confident about my purchase than I would have been otherwise. One thing to check on with all Odays of that size is the soundness of the interior bulkhead. The chain plates for the shrouds run through the deck and attach to the wood of the bulkhead; because of the constant working of the plates, they can be the site of deck leaks. If water runs to the bulkhead, it can rot, and you can't have your shrouds attached to a rotten bulkhead. Replacing these bulkheads is a big pain. If they look like they have suffered water damage, I'd stay clear of the boat unless you are a skilled woodworker with a lot of time. If the boat checks out, that is a nice price for this model with a trailer and outboard.
I had a survey done on my Oday 23 before purchase. Even though I had read "how to buy a sailboat" books, reviewed website info, etc., the surveyor found a few things that I didn't and couldn't have. He charged me a special low rate because of the simplicity of the boat's systems, and made me far more confident about my purchase than I would have been otherwise. One thing to check on with all Odays of that size is the soundness of the interior bulkhead. The chain plates for the shrouds run through the deck and attach to the wood of the bulkhead; because of the constant working of the plates, they can be the site of deck leaks. If water runs to the bulkhead, it can rot, and you can't have your shrouds attached to a rotten bulkhead. Replacing these bulkheads is a big pain. If they look like they have suffered water damage, I'd stay clear of the boat unless you are a skilled woodworker with a lot of time. If the boat checks out, that is a nice price for this model with a trailer and outboard.
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Justin - O'day Owners' Web
All boats are headaches
Todd - Anyone who tells you his boat is not a headache is a masochist, liar, or doesn't maintain his boat. That said - its worth the pain. I would have a survey done. If you like this boat and the price feels right to you, go at least that far with it. It seems the price is in line with boats around here (Portland, ME) if you get the outboard. Be there for the survey. At a minimum you will get a lot of insight into what to look for as you shop - if the the survey comes out clean then you're golden. Try to have the survey involve the outboard. Don't let the current owner give you a hard time. It seems like a decent deal but its not earth staggering - if the owner doesn't want the survey or says something to the effect of he's giving you a great deal you should trust him run, do not walk, away. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
Todd - Anyone who tells you his boat is not a headache is a masochist, liar, or doesn't maintain his boat. That said - its worth the pain. I would have a survey done. If you like this boat and the price feels right to you, go at least that far with it. It seems the price is in line with boats around here (Portland, ME) if you get the outboard. Be there for the survey. At a minimum you will get a lot of insight into what to look for as you shop - if the the survey comes out clean then you're golden. Try to have the survey involve the outboard. Don't let the current owner give you a hard time. It seems like a decent deal but its not earth staggering - if the owner doesn't want the survey or says something to the effect of he's giving you a great deal you should trust him run, do not walk, away. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
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Justin - O'day Owners' Web
All boats are headaches
Todd - Anyone who tells you his boat is not a headache is a masochist, liar, or doesn't maintain his boat. That said - its worth the pain. I would have a survey done. If you like this boat and the price feels right to you, go at least that far with it. It seems the price is in line with boats around here (Portland, ME) if you get the outboard. Be there for the survey. At a minimum you will get a lot of insight into what to look for as you shop - if the the survey comes out clean then you're golden. Try to have the survey involve the outboard. Don't let the current owner give you a hard time. It seems like a decent deal but its not earth staggering - if the owner doesn't want the survey or says something to the effect of he's giving you a great deal you should trust him run, do not walk, away. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
Todd - Anyone who tells you his boat is not a headache is a masochist, liar, or doesn't maintain his boat. That said - its worth the pain. I would have a survey done. If you like this boat and the price feels right to you, go at least that far with it. It seems the price is in line with boats around here (Portland, ME) if you get the outboard. Be there for the survey. At a minimum you will get a lot of insight into what to look for as you shop - if the the survey comes out clean then you're golden. Try to have the survey involve the outboard. Don't let the current owner give you a hard time. It seems like a decent deal but its not earth staggering - if the owner doesn't want the survey or says something to the effect of he's giving you a great deal you should trust him run, do not walk, away. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
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Todd
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Thanks for the input. Plan to see the boat next week - if OK on preliminary inspection, I'll be getting a survey for sure - already found several in Chicago area via the web. Another question or two: As its been stored for a while, the seller says I'll probably have to get entirely new running rigging - expensive? Would that mean halyards too, or are those wire? Also, I'll look closely at the hull where it's supported by the trailer - I read these areas can buckle over time. Would hull buckling rule it out as a purchase?
Thanks for the input. Plan to see the boat next week - if OK on preliminary inspection, I'll be getting a survey for sure - already found several in Chicago area via the web. Another question or two: As its been stored for a while, the seller says I'll probably have to get entirely new running rigging - expensive? Would that mean halyards too, or are those wire? Also, I'll look closely at the hull where it's supported by the trailer - I read these areas can buckle over time. Would hull buckling rule it out as a purchase?
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Todd
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Thanks for the input. Plan to see the boat next week - if OK on preliminary inspection, I'll be getting a survey for sure - already found several in Chicago area via the web. Another question or two: As its been stored for a while, the seller says I'll probably have to get entirely new running rigging - expensive? Would that mean halyards too, or are those wire? Also, I'll look closely at the hull where it's supported by the trailer - I read these areas can buckle over time. Would hull buckling rule it out as a purchase?
Thanks for the input. Plan to see the boat next week - if OK on preliminary inspection, I'll be getting a survey for sure - already found several in Chicago area via the web. Another question or two: As its been stored for a while, the seller says I'll probably have to get entirely new running rigging - expensive? Would that mean halyards too, or are those wire? Also, I'll look closely at the hull where it's supported by the trailer - I read these areas can buckle over time. Would hull buckling rule it out as a purchase?
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