Enough with the Paint questions!!!

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Nov 9, 2008
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One more guys. Does anybody have any experience with "cold galvanizing" on a trailer? I've got some replacement parts to build and I want them to be protected from the elements. I can't find a local hot dip galvanizer to I'll looking at cold. Is this a dumb idea?
 

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
How big are the pieces? Have you looked into power coating? I would only do this with pieces that you won't be modifying in the future.



I had our trailer sandblasted down to bare metal last fall and then I painted (sprayed) with an epoxy primer and then put on a single stage urethane over that. I was adding the second axle with disc brakes and the sub-frame under the orginal frame at the time.

I've been real happy with epoxy primers...



http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/hooley/hooley-2007-Story.html

....on my pickup and teardrop and have probably a couple thousand miles driving on the salt flats and that water in the picture has a way higher concentration of salt in it than the ocean. Driving on the salt during speed week the whole under side of the vehicle gets packed with it.

It is good stuff, but you need to apply it on bare metal,

Sum

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Nov 9, 2008
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If you look at the stantions on my trailer, you'll notice there is lots of rust coming thru. When I originally built them they looked pretty good. But, they were a temporary fix, something to get the boat home on. But it's time for a permanent design. I'll be buying some 3" channel and angle and welding up open shaped supports, you know, the ones the DON'T trap sea water inside them! I drilled weep holes in the base and they spew water out two feet while it drains. There is a metal fabricator not too far from me and the do have a paint line. I also have a friend who works there so maybe I can get it at cost.

You'll also notice the reason for my other posts on bottom paint! By the end of Apri I'd like to have a whole new outlook on my boat.
 

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Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
Oh, Sum, nice ride! Love the flame job!
Thanks. If something is open inside like ......



http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/trailer-mods-3.html

......square tubing I try and weld it totally closed so that no water gets inside in the first place, but with a mig that is sometimes hard as it seems like it always leaves small pin holes in the weld. The reason I do this as I can't get to the inside to paint it. Now maybe if you could get them dipped that would take care of that, but that isn't an option for me where I live.

If I was dealing with angle or channel I would either have it powder coated or I would paint it which is what I do, since you can get to all the surfaces.

On the paint I got mine from Summit Racing. they have a line of primers and paint that is about as cheap as I've seen it and less than the auto paint stores near me. If you get primer from them or someone else be sure it is the epoxy primer made to go on as the first coat and not one of the 2K or other high build primers that are designed to fill low spots when repairing a cars panels.

Here is the primer...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-UP232/

and the catalyst...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-UP233/

and the urethane I used....

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-UP301/

which needs at least the activator...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-UP101/

... get the one for the temperature you will be spraying at. You can probably not get the reducer, but I used a small amount. They also have kits with the paint, activator and reducer together. There again you have to pick a temp you will be spraying at.

Also these paints have a time window like the barrier paints and bottom paints where you have to apply the finish paint over them to get the correct chemical bond. If you get past that time window you have to sand or scuff them and start over. You don't need to remove them just sand or scuff. I wouldn't spray the primer unless you are ready to go onto the top coat.

Here in the west you can sand blast something and then go months with no surface rust if the part is inside. That isn't the case back east. Don't sand blast until you are also ready to paint. When I say sand blast most places now use another medium other than sand. I sand blasted my entire truck down to bare metal at home. The trailer was done for about $275 by a commercial place using a different medium.

I have more here.....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/tech--body-paint-index.html

....and this .....

http://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-5-cfm-gravity-feed-spray-gun-91009.html

......HF HVLP gun is probably good if you have an adequate compressor. It looks like a newer version of the ones I have from them. I have info also on setting one of these up as the instructions are usually bad....

http://www.purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/techinfo/HVLPspraygun.html

Good luck,

Sum

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Nov 9, 2008
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Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Wow, thanks for all the info! I have a gun that I picked up to paint my son's S10. We were (are) clueless but it came out OK considering the down draft paint booth we used was made from PVC pipe stuck in the lawn with plastic stretched over it and cardboard ductwork stuffed under the truck.

The new post will definitely be channel or some other open shape. I'll tack the parts together then have a my son's friend bury a bunch of rod. Seems like just yesterday I
was giving him a nougie. Now, he's welded at the shipyard. Go figure!
 
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