Engine Temp

Jun 28, 2009
33
Hunter 27 Penobscot
I have a retro fitted 21 hp yanmar diesel in my hunter 27 with a fresh water cooling system.The temp is running around 180-200 degrees is this to hot? If so where do look first to remedy the situation?
Regards
BF
 
Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
Big Fish: Have no clue why the inboard crew are not posting and reinforcing your temp readings. Having run many sports cars in my time, from that reference I would expect that is about right for a water cooled engine. Of course that is just an educated guess on my part as I run an outboard on my boat. Maybe someone will chime in. Stu?
Chief
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,084
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
OK, Chief. I'll give it a try.

What is your thermostat rating? They usually make two: 160F or 180F. If it's a 180F thermostat, then your temps are OK.

They stamp the thermostats, but they do it in degrees C! :doh:
 
Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
Thanks Stu, I couldn't cover this one. Ralph, sounds like you can add to this to help. Thanks guys, Chief
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
I have a retro fitted 21 hp yanmar diesel in my hunter 27 with a fresh water cooling system.The temp is running around 180-200 degrees is this to hot? If so where do look first to remedy the situation?
Regards
BF
is this a two or three cylinder yanmar and if so could you tell me what the model is plz
 
Dec 14, 2003
1,434
Hunter 34 Lake of Two Mountains, QC, Can
On most 2 & 3 cyl. Yanmar GM engines, thermostat begins to open at 71 C (160 F) and is fully opened at 85 C (185 F). As Stu says, sometimes you'll find a higher temp thermostat allowing the engine to run hotter.
 
Jun 28, 2009
33
Hunter 27 Penobscot
Temp up to 210

So I gradually increased the rpms up to 2200 and the temp hit 210 and I shut it down. To hot? Suggestions?
Thanks as always.
BF
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
check the raw water pump impeller and also the t stat and make sure you have the valve open when running if that does not do it you may have to open up the heat exchanger and service it it should run at 160 to 180 degrees when fully warmed up

as cool as your water is up there it should take a long time to heat up and then it should run at what ever temp your t stat is + or - 5 degrees you have very good water for cooling up there
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,302
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
So I gradually increased the rpms up to 2200 and the temp hit 210 and I shut it down. To hot? Suggestions?
Thanks as always.
BF
The fact that you temp. rises excessively with load shows that there is a blockage to the raw water flow. Follow Woodster's recommendations and you're on your way.

In addition, don't know if you're just pointing out that 2200 RPM is the start of the overheating but it should be at 80% of 3600 RPM = 2880 RPM for normal running.
 
Sep 3, 2012
195
Hunter 285 Grand Rivers Ky
I also want to suggest, in addition to the recommendations above you ensure good water flow sometimes things grow on the hull and obstruct the water inlet, also the strainer may be clogged. Both of these can damage the impeller. (Of course).
 
Jun 28, 2009
33
Hunter 27 Penobscot
Valve

Wooster:
Excuse my ignorance but what valve and location please?
Thank You
BF
PS: I will be away until the end of the week but will investigate when I return and will post what I find.
 
Jan 4, 2007
406
Hunter 30 Centerport
My GM 10 was running hot. I'm raw water cooled and I thought checked everything.
I checked the hoses, thermostat, pulled the head o check the cooling passages and even ran Redylime me theough the engine to descale it. I replaced the impeller thinking that the rubber vanes may have separated from impeller hub. I also replaced the pump face plate. (It looked a little worn). After all was said and done I traced the problem to
A bunch of small mussel shells in the raw water intake thru hull between the the hull The ball valve. I think the descaling and
Pump face plate also helped.

Recheck the temp
Check ALL hoses
Check the thermostat in a pot if boiling water to make sure it's open.
Check the they hull BEFORE the ball valve
Replace the impeller and check the face plate
DESCAlLE
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Wooster:
Excuse my ignorance but what valve and location please?
Thank You
BF
PS: I will be away until the end of the week but will investigate when I return and will post what I find.
the seacock valve that feeds your raw water pump its usually at the rear of the engine mounted to the hull
 
Jan 4, 2007
406
Hunter 30 Centerport
On my 1978 H-27. The thru hull for the engine was in front of the motor to the left looking aft. There was no sea strainer. There was a 90 degree fitting with the ball valve attached to the fitting. Then there was a hose nipple attached to the ball valve.....the mussel shells were in the 90 degree fitting before the ball valve...
 
Jun 28, 2009
33
Hunter 27 Penobscot
Infrared Readings

On someone's advice on this forum (another thread) I bought a infrared thermometer. Here are the readings after about 15-20 minutes with water temp at about 190 degrees:
Raw water in : 76
Raw water out: 82
Thermostat in line: 162
Thermostat out line: 136
After a few minutes both the thermostat in and out line read: 136
Why would the raw water temp be so high? Here on the Maine coast this time of year it can't be much more that 50 degrees.

BF
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,108
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Reading high.. couple of things that ya have to keep in mind when using an infrared thermometer.. 1 the reading is of the outer skin where the sensor is looking.. If you have a fairly thick rubber hose which is a good insulator, you might read the temperature of the skin of the hose which will be close to ambient in the engine box, and not the cool water inside.. an extreme example would be to measure temp on outside of fridge .. you'd get something lower than room temp but not the cold inside temp. 2. The readings depend on a surface property called "emittance" which is how much heat the sensor can see coming out of the thing that you are measuring. Something kinda dull will always give a better measurement than something very shiny..

Measure the seacock body (if bronze) to get a better measure of the incoming water temp..
 
Jun 28, 2009
33
Hunter 27 Penobscot
Gauge?

Well I've checked about everything, thermostat, raw water intake (there is no screen), mixing elbow, coolant, heat exchange, and a shot different areas with a infrared thermometer and all seems normal. So the mechanic at the boat shop said it is probably a faulty gauge. What are the chances it is the gauge or sending unit?
Thanks
BF
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,084
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
BF, there are only three things in the system: the sender, the gauge and the wiring/connections. Check the connections, each end. Gauge checks are easy: Google Teleflex gauge check and find it on the internet, easy to do. If both those work, then it's gotta be...? You guessed it! :):):)