Engine kill location

[Sanman]

Hi all, heres another question:
On my '87 Cat 30 MkII, the engine kill is located below the port corner of the companionway in the cabin; between the steps and the aft galley counter, requiring one to reach down into the cabin to shut the engine down.
Is that the original location?
I am planning to re-locate the Pull knob to the cockpit engine control panel, but was just curious as to why it was located there in the first place?
The only thing I can come up with is that since it is a Mid-ship engine location, it was closer to the engine in the event one was working on the engine and needed to shut it down...Is that the thinking?
And further, is there any reason NOT to relocate it to the cockpit, where I can access it quicker from the helm in the event of an alarm?

 

[dj2210]

Mine (1990) is on the engine panel

 

[wufibugs]

They are almost all originally located on the panel as is Doug's, however I don't recommend putting it there because all that pushing and pulling stresses the panel. Search the archives for lots of alternatives. Here's the link to my solution, one of many:

http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=1083596&highlight=

 

[Stu Jackson]

You don't need a separate kill pull down below. Just use the lever at the forward top starboard side of the engine, which is where a remote cable ends up.

 

[Sanman]

You don't need a separate kill pull down below. Just use the lever at the forward top starboard side of the engine, which is where a remote cable ends up.

Hmmmm... Yeah thats what I was thinking too... there isnt a kill switch in the cockpit at all. Just the Pull knob, down below... thats why I'm going to re-locate it entirely. I was just wondering if anybody else had seen this set up and why it was the way it was... or did they just not have enough cable when they installed the MX 25 and decided, "well its close enough. we'll just put it here"

 

[Stu Jackson]

... or did they just not have enough cable when they installed the MX 25 and decided, "well its close enough. we'll just put it here"

Maybe that's why the "invented" the term PO (previous owner).

Who knows what they (not necessarily single) might have done???:dance::dance::dance::naughty::naughty::naughty:

 

[mortyd]

what is on the bottom of your panel if not a fuel cutoff handle?

 

[jrowan]

I guess my 5411 engine is more primitive then the MX25 as we don't even have a fuel cut off valve handle. We just pull back on the throttle handle until the fuel is cut off to kill the engine.

 

[Sanman]

what is on the bottom of your panel if not a fuel cutoff handle?

Nothing. there's a key-switch a glow-plug button and a starter button there's a Tach, an Oil pressure and a temp gauge and an alarm Buzzer. Thats it. The Kill is down below as described.... Crazy Huh?
Oh well, no big deal, just going to move it. I'm sure the PO had his reasons.

 

[mortyd]

did you have this boat surveyed? if so, what did the surveyor have to say about the mysteriously missing cutoff handle? also is there some kind of a scar on the panel where the handle woould nave been?

 

[Sanman]

did you have this boat surveyed? if so, what did the surveyor have to say about the mysteriously missing cutoff handle? also is there some kind of a scar on the panel where the handle woould nave been?

It HAS a cut off handle, but it is located in the cabin, next to the aft counter in the galley. The surveyor thought it was an odd placement too, but since it worked, it was deemed operable (if somewhat inconvenient).

That is why I posed the question about other boats cut off handle locations because there is no visible scar on the instrument panel where it should have been,(or even originally was) and I was just wondering if there were any others with the cut-off handle in the cabin as opposed to at the helm.

 

[wufibugs]

Mincing words. You feel yours is improvidently located. You either decide to live with it where it is, get a new panel that has the cable located as in Doug's picture, or relocate to a more convenient place that does not stress the panel. I can't think of any other choices except to buy a new 41 footer.

 

[jrowan]

Mincing words. You feel yours is improvidently located. You either decide to live with it where it is, get a new panel that has the cable located as in Doug's picture, or relocate to a more convenient place that does not stress the panel. I can't think of any other choices except to buy a new 41 footer.

I like your way of thinking! My solution should to any boat repair problem should always be to buy a new boat.

 

[Sanman]

Mincing words. You feel yours is improvidently located. You either decide to live with it where it is, get a new panel that has the cable located as in Doug's picture, or relocate to a more convenient place that does not stress the panel. I can't think of any other choices except to buy a new 41 footer.

Hmmmmm...I like your logic...think the wife will go for it?

 

[dlewis812]

looks like i have similar. kill switch is in the port cabin locker; can access directly there or through small flap door from aft galley. not a big deal but would be obviously easier if in the open. my engine control panel def never had one.

 

[SailorRob]

I have a 1981 with a 2010M25 XPB. I relocated a new panel at the port side seat back instead of down by where your feet go. I put a new opening locker where the old panel hole was. Inside the new locker is where I installed a new kill switch. So I get more cockpit storage and a convenient out of the way kill switch.

 

[mortyd]

what is a glo plug button? and why would pushing and pulling a cable whose outer skin runs through the panel stress the panel? when i use my cut off cable it puts no force on the panel, and no force, no stress.