Electrical Issues With Outboard on Small Catalina

Aug 31, 2022
19
Catalina Capri 18 712 La Bahia de San Felipe, MX
Looking for help diagnosing 2 problems: 1) Abnormal drain on the battery associated with the alternator connection to the motor, and 2) Abnormal drain on the battery (without alternator hookup) from just a small Garmin tied in.
Boat Info:
Boat: 2000 Catalina 18
Outboard Motor: 2019 Tohatsu MFS-6C
Garmin Echomap Plus 43CV with 4 inch screen (used for navigation, GPS info, and depth below keel readings via installed stern-mounted transducer)
Battery: Standard Marine 12V battery (age unknown, but at least 5 years old)

Problem 1 - the Alternator hookup.
When I bought the boat in the Fall of 2022, the previous owner had a nice setup. He had installed a small solar trickle charger on the stern, and installed the optional parts which connected an alternator to the motor with two bullet connectors (Red+/Black-) which could be plugged in or un plugged when the motor was in use or stored. This setup worked great to charge the battery when the motor was running, and then when not in use, the trickle charger kept the battery topped up.
About 3 months ago, I noticed that the bullet connector (Red/+) had failed and needed to be replaced. Most likely it had been like that for a while, but I never noticed anything wrong with the electrical as it still ran all my electronics. I bought the necessary marine wire and marine connectors to replace the failed bullet connectors and installed them. I started the engine and then used my multi-meter to check the voltage of the battery - much to my surprise, it was dropping like a stone - and FAST! I disconnected everything and started reading up on what this might be. I was 99% sure I had NOT accidentally switched the connections, but the you tube videos I watched said the most likely failure was that I'd blown the Rectifier Diode on the Alternator assembly. Once the weather cools off down here (I live in Northern Baja California, Mexico and the boat is full-time in a slip (in salt water), I have this plan of action in mind:
1) Follow the instructions to use my multi-meter to test the Rectifier Diode to see if it is indeed blown and whether I should replace that assembly. I have all the other connectors and wire, so I'm hoping that is a straightforward operation (although completely new to me)
2) If it is blown, go ahead and replace the Rectifier Diode assembly that is bolted to the motor, and then double-check the wires/connectors to the assembly before I fire up the motor to try to restore alternator charging of the battery when the motor is in use.

Anything else you'd recommend I try or look at?

Separate from problem 1, I now seem to have an issue with just running my small Garmin 43CV for longer than about 2 hours without it dying. This just started about a week ago. I tested the battery before turning anything on and it read 13.6V with the solar trickle charger plugged in. Once I turned on the Garmin, it began to slowly show voltage dropping until it eventually turned off. I was sailing at the time, so I hove-to and tested the battery - it read about 9.2V, which seems much lower than I would have expected after only a couple hours with one small device that pulls (according to the specs), 5W max power draw and a typical current draw of 0.5A (Max current draw of 2A). Confession - I know next to nothing about electricity, so I'm picking this up on the fly by looking at You Tube videos and reading instruction manuals. Any suggestions on where I start to troubleshoot this? I thought I would do the following:
1) Check the Voltage of the battery both with and without the solar panel connected to ensure the solar charger is working
2) Check the connection on the back of the electrical panel to make sure those connections have not corroded, fix if needed
3) See if I can find a date on the battery to see how old it is - perhaps the battery itself is failing

Other than that, I'm not sure what else to do.

Last couple notes: It has been SUPER HOT and humid down here. For example, last week when I had this issue, it was 100 degrees with about 60% humidity so the real-feel was 118. Perhaps I'm getting poor battery performance just because of the harsh heat?

Thanks for any insight or suggestions!
 

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Mar 6, 2008
1,503
Catalina 1999 C36 MKII #1787 Coyote Point Marina, CA.
As mentioned above, sounds like you have a bad battery. Assuming it is flooded cells, have you checked the water inside? 5 years is about the life of a battery. Is the solar panel using a 3-stage charger? It may be overcharging the battery. My batteries has lasted 8.5 years charging with solar panel and MPPT Victron charger.
 
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Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Batteries don’t last as long in hot climates. I may have skipped over the part in your post about this - if your battery was at 9v, how did you start your engine?
 
Sep 24, 2018
4,561
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
If you don't like the price of Victron, take a look at Morningstar. Good quality controllers that treat your batteries properly. They just work. You can find used ones on ebay even cheaper.
Batteries don’t last as long in hot climates. I may have skipped over the part in your post about this - if your battery was at 9v, how did you start your engine?
It's likely a pull start since it's an 18ft boat. I had what appeared to be wiring for an alternator on a 4hp pull start Tohatsu. My Evinrude 9.9 started on as little as 10 or 11 volts.
 
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Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
9 volts for a 12 volt battery is OK Coral dead. The grave marker says:
"Here lies Lestor Moore. 4 slugs from a 44. No Less. No More."
It read 13.6 volts while it was being charged. That's the charger talking. Once off the juice it fell to its real voltage 9.2 V - dead. I'm not nearly as astute about batteries as many others on this forum. But this doesn't seem very complicated.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
A 5+ year old battery is past its expiration date. Poor charging, hot weather, and deep discharges will kill the battery. What size is the battery.

Resting battery voltage will give an indication of the state of charge (SOC) but does not reveal any information about the battery's capacity. Over time and use LA batteries lose capacity.
 
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Jan 4, 2006
7,670
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Try the lazy man's battery test before doing too much else.

First record the battery voltage after it's been charged for a few hours (either engine or trickle charger). Get it to 13.0V or greater if possible. Completely remove all electrical connections to the battery and leave the battery to sit for a few days.

Check the battery V again to see if it's dropped significantly.
 
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May 24, 2004
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CC 30 South Florida
1) Have the battery load tested (auto parts stores will do it for free) 2) Those alternators on small HP outboards are useless for charging batteries. They are intended for connecting a simple array of navigation lights. I would just disconnect it and charge the battery with a 120V shore powered battery charger. 3) Check for parasitic draws on the boats electric circuit. Disconnect the (+) positive cable from the battery and connect a continuity tester ( a tiny light bulb tester ) between the cable and the battery pole. Turn off all lights or appliances and if the light bulb stays on there is a short somewhere in the wiring or connectors. When diagnosing 12V electrical problems, always make sure you have a healthy battery to start with. One of the biggest enemies of a lead acid battery is not to charge it back to 100% after every use. A partially charged battery will sulfate diminishing its capacity to hold charge. The alternator on these small outboards will be incapable of maintaining a battery in good health.
 
Aug 31, 2022
19
Catalina Capri 18 712 La Bahia de San Felipe, MX
Thanks for all the replies. I have pulled the battery and serviced it (needed water). Now it's back on the boat and charging to full. Next time out I'll see it will hold that charge or if it'll just drain right out. I'm thinking most likely it's "Battery replacement time".