Edson wheel brake heads up

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Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
The Edson rep says they have never heard of this happening but the design leaves me convinced that it must be an issue.

I installed one of their wheel brake kits for pre 2003 pedestal steerers with the #825ST-1 press on knob. This has a plastic insert that will let the knob pop off if snagged by a line before the pedestal is ripped out of the cockpit floor, a good feature.

However, in a moment when I was distracted by other things, I had the rudder slip and really tightened the brake. When I went to release the brake, the wheel spun but I couldn't steer. I turned the wheel some more and the knob came right off. The plastic insert is simply threaded and the stainless knob just unscrewed from it. There I was unable to steer until I rummaged in a locker for vice grips. It could have led to a big problem in some circumstances.

Edson was very good about it. I had a new plastic insert the next day but that's not really the issue. All that holds the insert in is a green Locktite product, propriatary to them according to the rep, which bonds to both plastic and stainless steel. The replacement insert came smeared with it in a plastic bag but I couldn't see any sign of it locking the insert in when I tried it. The green goop on the old insert that came loose was soft.

I drilled an 1/8" hole throug the side of the knob socket, put in the insert, backdrilled, and inserted a piece of S.S. rod. Then. I took it apart and put it all back together with epoxy. This knob isn't going to come unscrewed.

If you have one of these, I suggest doing the same or at least keeping in mind when you lock the wheel hard that you might not be able to get it free again and plan ahead accordingly.
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
Your break locked so hard you could not move your wheel at all?
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
Your break locked so hard you could not move your wheel at all?
I could move it but not easily enough to steer effectively. The brake was on way too hard but the steering parts shouldn't fail and nearly disable the steering just because you turn a knob a bit too hard.
 

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May 13, 2009
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Catalina 310 Port Geographe West OZ
The handle looks like it should have a small grub screw to tighten down on the flat part of the key way ...........think i will give it a go
 
Nov 22, 2008
3,562
Endeavour 32 Portland, Maine
The handle looks like it should have a small grub screw to tighten down on the flat part of the key way ...........think i will give it a go
Not on this particular model. There is nothing but the friction of the threads and the Locktite to keep the knob from unscrewing from the plastic hub. There is a pin through the stainless shaft that keeps the plastic part from rotating.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Don't like it

I am glad I don't have a brake handle like that because I have always had some kind problem making things too tight and either braking the part of or stripping it,don't know my own strength most times.
I like the idea you used making it more solid and less chance of it falling apart,great job improving bad idea by edison.
I thought Lewmar took over edison.
I have a Lewmar folding wheel and on the way down from NY to Florida the two spokes where it folds in became very loose and not a very nice solid
wheel to hold on a offshore trip and eventually the wheel part of the auto stopped working also.
Can't say for sure if the folding wheel caused the problem of the Auto because we 24/7 offshore in pretty nasty weather,but the rest of the spokes were solid and we just took turns at the wheel until we got to Florida.
Lewmar did send me a new wheel and Raymarine replaced the Auto.
I did take the hub of the wheel apart and found that the two folding spokes were just tacked welded and not welded as good as the other spokes,some one on the assembly line must have forgot to go back and finish the more solid welding where they are made in South Africa.
Every thing has been good since,so they do make mistakes and luckerly the wheel did not fall apart all together.
Nick
 
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