Ed help me with my staysail

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Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Never had the staysail on my boat. Got the parts from PO at purchase. Just put stay up, attached boom. It was so easy that I am concerned. Is this what it should look like? What is the forward bail for?
 

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May 6, 2004
916
Hunter 37C Seattle
Bill I think you hang a block from the bail

and run the sheet thru it to the rail and back to the cockpit.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
So far looking good. I use the bale to tie off the outhaul line, the one hanging there in your picture. Originally as Scott points out there was a single block there. Many of us have eliminated the staysail sheet going from the boom end to that block and then over to the toerail and back. I turned my fiddles around so that the sheet comes off the bottom at the traveler. Then to a block at the base of the mast, over to a deck organizer and back to the portside cabin winch. I don't think that I have any good pictures but I will add them here if I find any.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Thanks Guys. I have a turning block similar to
Ed's and a winch and cleat portside on the cabin top, so my plan is not to run the line forward. I am currently holing the aft end of the boom off the deck with the spinnaker halyard. Plan to put a line on the spin pole ring until I get a crash bar over the dorade boxes. What do you think?
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
That's what I do Bill, a pennant or topping lift down from the whisker pole ring. Our boats originally had a topping lift from just below where the halyard exits. There were remnants of one anyway when I first took the mast down. I have never found a need for the bar over the dorades but it would protect the forward hatch I guess.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Mary found a thread from 2003 talking about spin halyards, topping lifts etc.

She is making us a stack pack for the main and current plans are to snap it to the mast sides so I won't be covering up the spin pole ring. My boat came with an asym, and I have all the first hand experience with a 12-22 foot whisker pole that I ever want , so the pole ring will be otherwise unused.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
I don't know Bill, I think the pole is a lot easier than the asymm. I also have a drifter and have used it once. She goes downwind pretty good with the yankee winged out with that pole.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
I had a pole, no drifter on my Morgan 34. Used it with my 155. It too had forward lower shrouds, so the pole always angled forward. Was impossible to extend under load, I had to extend it down the side deck (wider on the 34) clip it on at the forestay, push it out, lift it to the ring, and then get cockpit crew to trim the sheet. Lot of heavy lifiting for an old man. Had an asym in a snuffer on my O/I 41. Ran it up 60 feet to the masthead, lifted the snuffer and Poof acres of nylon pulling me down wind. In any event, my H37c came with an asym, no pole. Lots and lots of higher priority places to spend before I even consider a whisker pole.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Completely understand. Especially with a 155 a pole would be a hassle. A snuffer for my drifter is high on my list. It seems Murphy sails with me. Whether the yankee poled out or the drifter flying you know the wind is going to double before you can get them down.
 

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Sep 27, 2008
333
Hunter 37c Tampa
After taking the staysail boom off ladylove today i have it fresh in my mind. the tack of the staysail goes in the upper bail or eye where the halyard is. When the staysail is on the boom and down, the halyard needs a home. On Ed S. boat there was a loop on the top end of the pendant under the boom to attach the staysail halyard when not in use. Good idea and easy place to get it on short notice. Mine had roller furling on the saysail so it was a little different.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Thanks both Ed's. I got mine on and covered yesterday. Didn't have a good place for the halyard so i wraped it around the cover, but the pendant eye sounds good too.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Geez, I guess my boat no longer has a staysail boom! Seriously I talked to Ed A. yesterday after he took Ladylove from Davis Island over to St. Pete. I can't thank Ed enough.

The hauler is to arrive Monday and the yard will have her ready to load. Ladylove should be back in Huron, Ohio, just one week from today and more than three years after she left. There could easily be a book in those three years. Today I go up to the lake to see if the cradle is ready for her.

As for my staysail halyard I think that I snapped it on that wire pendant at the base of the mid-stay.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Hope you enjoy it. You are just going to put her away for the winter right? As i recall november on the great lakes is not peak sailing.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Lookin' good Bill, like a cutter. Right, I get to winterize next week. No fun draining and bypassing the hot water tank. Now to find the cheapest source of anti-freeze, probably Wally world. I forgot to ask Ed A. the status of the water tanks. We empty them and leave a gallon of anti-freeze in the bottoms. I'll have to take a long hose in order to run the engine on the cradle. Guess I better print my winterizing checklist.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
In the bad old days on the shore of Lake Michigan, I ran pink R/V A/F thru the block by putting a hose in a five gallon bucket and sucking it up with the raw water pump into the thru hull. Probably not reccomended, but I ran the engine till the exhaust water turned pink. Shut it down and didn't crack anything at -30 F.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Hi Scott, wish that I had some nice flip answer. The original plan was to retire, sail the boat to Florida, and then spend winters there in our New Port Richey condo. You've heard the line, "want to make God laugh? Tell him your plans." No saying more true. Short version is that we can no longer travel due to my wife's health issues. So I will steal away for a few hours once or twice a week. Will be kind of like when I was still working.
 
Jun 25, 2009
542
Hunter 33 Seabrooke, Houston
Please excuse the ignorance, but I am curious about the staysail: is it a sail that has a small boom of it's own and is positioned in front of the mast, and then attached to the deck, by the anchor locker?
I know the bigger boats have an extra sail where the jib goes, but is this the same thing?
I have the H33 (1982), but I am curious
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Jorge:

The Hunter 37C has a staysail. It is mounted on an inner stay and can have a boom or not. Typically the H'37C had a boom. The boom was either attached on a deck fitting or they also had a special fitting that was attached on the inner stay.

This give the cutter some options when sailing in light air (all sails up), or heavy air with either the jib or staysail.

It is a nice setup if you are doing offshore work because it give you a few more options.
 
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