Does water entering chain locker via chain pipe drain to bilge?

dougpol1 · Aug 25, 2014

Yes The chain locker does drain into the bilge. I can't imagine that
enough water could go down the Hawser pipe to put that much water in
the builge except over a very long period of time??? I guess it's
possible?? doug

On 08/25/2014 02:36 PM,
John.Kinsella@... [AlbinVega] wrote:

tom_rutter · Aug 25, 2014

Check that your foot pumps aren't leaking. I had a leak that left me scratching my head until I replaced a corroded pump.
Tom

wisdomracing · Aug 25, 2014

Speaking of foot pumps, what is proper procedure when they fail? Is my only option replacement, or are rebuild kits available?Jacob

stevebirch2002 · Aug 25, 2014

Check the seal between the cockpit sole and frame,
check foot pumps in toilet and galley, check gap between
washboards.

Does it happen when it is heavy rain? If so I
expect cokpit sole and sal

Steve B
From: Douglas Pollard dougpol2@...
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pipe drain to bilge?

Yes The chain locker does drain into the bilge. I can't imagine that enough
water could go down the Hawser pipe to put that much water in the builge except
over a very long period of time??? I guess it's possible??
doug
On 08/25/2014 02:36 PM, John.Kinsella@... [AlbinVega]
wrote:

marcin_palacz · Aug 25, 2014

On 25/08/14 21:16, Jacob Wisdom wisdomracing@... [AlbinVega] wrote:

dougpol1 · Aug 25, 2014

Also check the hoses from the channels that go around the wood seat
covers in the cockpit I had one that was stopped up where they run
out onto the cockpit floor and a hose was cracked at the fitting and
leaking.. Doug
On 08/25/2014 03:41 PM,
'steve@...' steve@... [AlbinVega] wrote:

stevebirch2002 · Aug 25, 2014

Cheaper to replace pumps, availabe at reasonable
price nowaday

Steve B
From: Jacob Wisdom
wisdomracing@... [AlbinVega]
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To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
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Speaking of foot pumps, what is proper procedure when they fail? Is
my only option replacement, or are rebuild kits available?

Jacob

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Tom Rutter tom.rutter@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com wrote:

stevebirch2002 · Aug 25, 2014

Hi John

Sounds like pump in The Heads. Sounds like water
coming from forward if under batteries. Perhaps pipes from bottom of water tank
where the pipes come out (two of them).

Cheers

Steve B
From: John.Kinsella John.Kinsella@...
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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 9:07 PM
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pipe drain to bilge?
Thanks Doug, Steve and all.Doug: How does
water flow from chain locker? Is there a conduit? Some kind of tube? Where is
it?!!!

Steve: water from cockpit isn't going to get under batteries?
I know that water can get from under sink to under starboard saloon berth and
from there to battery bilge but I'm pretty sure that's not happening..And
I've gone to some trouble to seal under cockpit sole.But I've been wrong
before... :-(John

marcin_palacz · Aug 25, 2014

On 25/08/14 23:17, 'steve@...' steve@... [AlbinVega]
wrote:

vegaboat · Aug 25, 2014

I had a somewhat curious leak on my series I, the fill hose at the water
tank had kinked the tank at the fitting and there was a leak.
Ric Eiserling #935

dougpol1 · Aug 25, 2014

It just flows along the "v" inside the bottom of the hull and under
the cabin sole back to the battery compartments and into the keel.
In the spring when I fill te water tank after it is full I keep
running water and it goes down into the chain locker and washes any
mud that may be in there back into the keel. Then I wash out the
keel with a water hose while pumping the dirty water overboard. I
noticed my boat smelling bad and someone suggested I do that. Works
a charm and keeps the bilge sweet.

Doug

On 08/25/2014 04:07 PM, John.Kinsella John.Kinsella@...
[AlbinVega] wrote:

dougpol1 · Aug 25, 2014

Your right of course mine was running under the engine and I think
it was filling the engine drip pan but don't remember for sure.
Which was a mess. Doug
On 08/25/2014 07:35 PM, ric@...
[AlbinVega] wrote:

stevebirch2002 · Aug 26, 2014

Hi Marcin
 
I picked up a few pumps from the local Chandelery
very cheaply (£25 each). That was a few years ag though.
 
As you say the Mark I kits are not
available.
 
Cheers
 
Steve B
 
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On 25/08/14 23:17, \'steve@...\' steve@... [AlbinVega]
wrote:

tomfentonvega2977beowulf · Aug 26, 2014

John, I think Doug is suggesting water drains from the chain locker, down a V channel down the centre line of the boat (where the keelson would be on a wooden boat) from the bow, under the sole in the head compartment, and under the forward part of the cabin sole, and drains into the battery compartment, which you called "the sub bilge forward of the main bilge", and from there into the bilge. I had not realised there was this double skin, as it were. Presumably you could check by looking at the forward end of the battery compartment, under the cabin sole, to see if there is such a channel draining in. I don't remember it in my Mk 2. I agree with others who have said it seems unlikely to be from the chain locker, unless you leave the chain pipe uncovered and you have had monsoon quantities of rain recently. But the answer to your original question (the title if the thread) must be yes, not just for rain water but also the water that drips from the wet chain when you weigh anchor, and water from seas breaking over the bow on a beat. We don't have the through hull drains at the base of the chain lockers that some larger boats have, and Per Brohall could not have expected evaporation to keep the locker dry. Water cannot drain properly across the cabin sole, because of the lip between cabin and head compartment. So there must be some channel to the bilge such as Doug describes, even if it doesn't drain into battery compartment.The other obvious suspects have been well covered in this thread - water tank and hoses, head and galley sea cocks and hoses. Could it have anything to do with the water ingress which damaged the wood laminate in your main bulkhead? Could it be from a leaking though deck fitting (mast cables, heater chimney) or a damaged chain plate or stanchion fitting? Every time it rains, we have a drip from one of the dorade vents which someone fitted above the cabin seats/berths. Have stripped the vent down twice and still not found the source of the drip. Let us know when you solve the problem. Good luck. Tom

pjacobs55 · Aug 26, 2014

I once had all my water leak our when the hose to the head sink came off. That was before I took out the head sink and plugged that opening at the tank. Nicholas H. Walsh Admiralty and maritime law; Commercial law Nicholas H. Walsh P.A.120 Exchange StreetP.O. Box 7206Portland Maine 04112-7206Phone: 207/772-2191Fax: 207/774-3940 This email is from a law firm and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you suspect you received it in error, please delete the email and contact us. From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 5:21 PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [AlbinVega] Does water entering chain locker via chain pipe drain to bilge? Hi John Sounds like pump in The Heads. Sounds like water coming from forward if under batteries. Perhaps pipes from bottom of water tank where the pipes come out (two of them). Cheers Steve B From: John.Kinsella John.Kinsella@... [AlbinVega] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 9:07 PMTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Does water entering chain locker via chain pipe drain to bilge? Thanks Doug, Steve and all.Doug: How does water flow from chain locker? Is there a conduit? Some kind of tube? Where is it?!!!

Steve: water from cockpit isn't going to get under batteries? I know that water can get from under sink to under starboard saloon berth and from there to battery bilge but I'm pretty sure that's not happening..And I've gone to some trouble to seal under cockpit sole.But I've been wrong before... :-(John

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