Has anyone installed a dodger and a sailing bimini on their Legend 37. My problem is that the boom is quite low and head room under the bimini would be rather low, however, behind the wheel a pop up slant could be installed enablng the person steering to stand up and see the sails through a clear plastic "Slant installed " window. It has been suggested that I raise my boom 8 or 9 inches, however, that would reduce my main sail size and slow the boat dowm. Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks, Barrie
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Stevec
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because I have the same boat and am also considering a bimini this year.....
because I have the same boat and am also considering a bimini this year.....
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Bill Sizemore
Happy to offer suggestion
Barrie, you confirmed a thought I had about my holding tank, so I'm pleased to be able to reponded to your question. We just bought our '87 Legend this summer, so I'm still learning, but I know my sail is original equipment. We have a full size bimini installed. When we open the bimini we have to swing the boom aside and we put a slight forward tilt on the bimini when we secure the ties. Once secured the boom swings back with plenty of clearance. Works great. We don't have a dodger but we're looking to add one next season. The problem that I've seen is that the Legend has the traveler in the cockpit. From what I've seen on several other 37s, a dodger fits fine, but it can't be attached to the bimini. I saw one 37 that had a zip-in insert. When anchored you swing the boom aside, attach the traveler snatch block to the toerail, then zip the insert in place. As I said, we hope to add a dodger this spring. We will us "The Ships Tailor" located in Deltaville, VA. They do wonderful work and I know they have custom built dodgers and biminis for several Legends in our marina in Deltaville. Hope you can find someone to do your work. If not, feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to get you a number for "The Ships Tailor". Wesizemore@aol.com
Barrie, you confirmed a thought I had about my holding tank, so I'm pleased to be able to reponded to your question. We just bought our '87 Legend this summer, so I'm still learning, but I know my sail is original equipment. We have a full size bimini installed. When we open the bimini we have to swing the boom aside and we put a slight forward tilt on the bimini when we secure the ties. Once secured the boom swings back with plenty of clearance. Works great. We don't have a dodger but we're looking to add one next season. The problem that I've seen is that the Legend has the traveler in the cockpit. From what I've seen on several other 37s, a dodger fits fine, but it can't be attached to the bimini. I saw one 37 that had a zip-in insert. When anchored you swing the boom aside, attach the traveler snatch block to the toerail, then zip the insert in place. As I said, we hope to add a dodger this spring. We will us "The Ships Tailor" located in Deltaville, VA. They do wonderful work and I know they have custom built dodgers and biminis for several Legends in our marina in Deltaville. Hope you can find someone to do your work. If not, feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to get you a number for "The Ships Tailor". Wesizemore@aol.com
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Paul Sealock
Dodger & Bimini
"Seawind Sails and Canvas" made a custom dodger and rollup awning for the cocpit. They make a very rugged hard top dodger. The good thing for you is they are in the marina in Bellingham. You may want to check them out. Their phone # is (360)650-0810. They can send you brochures for what you want. They arn't cheap but they make a great dodger. Paul S/V "Zephyr" Legend 37.5
"Seawind Sails and Canvas" made a custom dodger and rollup awning for the cocpit. They make a very rugged hard top dodger. The good thing for you is they are in the marina in Bellingham. You may want to check them out. Their phone # is (360)650-0810. They can send you brochures for what you want. They arn't cheap but they make a great dodger. Paul S/V "Zephyr" Legend 37.5
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Mickey Goodman
Dodger and Bimini For a Legend 37
This must be the year for the dodger/bimini installations on the 37. I have an 88 Legend 37 and I am also going to install a dodger and, if not a bimini it will be a "fly". I had a very highly recommended canvas guy come out and quote for a dodger and "fly". The dodger will start at the coming in front of the instruments and over the sides of the coming and up to the traveler. The dodger will cover the coming winchs. One thing to be very careful about is that if you use your traveler in other that the "centered" position you must make sure the dodger will not interfere with the main sheet. If it does get in the way during a stiff blow you can damage the dodger. Because of the low boom I don't think the bimini would be the best bet. I am considering a "fly" that would hook up to the dodger either with moving the traveler to one side and having a cut-out on the fly that would accomodate the sheet. I wouldn't use it when sailing, only under power or when in port. Paul Akers, who also has a 88 Legend 37 has that set-up and it works fine for him. Paul, is 6'5"+ and had a zip out window in the aft and of his Fly for him to look out of when necessary. He also had side panels make for his fly that I know he used this summer when he was caught at Martha's Vineyard during a couple of days of rain. I will probably do the same. When I purchased my boat I was able to get a 6' X 9' bimini for $10 (a give away) that I thought of using but the boom is so low I don't think it will work right. Please post your progress since I won't have the canvas guy start cutting until the spring. Mickey Goodman Endevour
This must be the year for the dodger/bimini installations on the 37. I have an 88 Legend 37 and I am also going to install a dodger and, if not a bimini it will be a "fly". I had a very highly recommended canvas guy come out and quote for a dodger and "fly". The dodger will start at the coming in front of the instruments and over the sides of the coming and up to the traveler. The dodger will cover the coming winchs. One thing to be very careful about is that if you use your traveler in other that the "centered" position you must make sure the dodger will not interfere with the main sheet. If it does get in the way during a stiff blow you can damage the dodger. Because of the low boom I don't think the bimini would be the best bet. I am considering a "fly" that would hook up to the dodger either with moving the traveler to one side and having a cut-out on the fly that would accomodate the sheet. I wouldn't use it when sailing, only under power or when in port. Paul Akers, who also has a 88 Legend 37 has that set-up and it works fine for him. Paul, is 6'5"+ and had a zip out window in the aft and of his Fly for him to look out of when necessary. He also had side panels make for his fly that I know he used this summer when he was caught at Martha's Vineyard during a couple of days of rain. I will probably do the same. When I purchased my boat I was able to get a 6' X 9' bimini for $10 (a give away) that I thought of using but the boom is so low I don't think it will work right. Please post your progress since I won't have the canvas guy start cutting until the spring. Mickey Goodman Endevour
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Barrie McDonald
Mickey Goodman, What is a Fly?
Mickey, when responding to my bimini inquires you mentioned you have a cockpit "Fly" arrangement instead of a Bimini. I have never heard of this. Can you enlighten me. Thanks, Barrie
Mickey, when responding to my bimini inquires you mentioned you have a cockpit "Fly" arrangement instead of a Bimini. I have never heard of this. Can you enlighten me. Thanks, Barrie
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Mickey Goodman
"Fly" - What Is IT!
A "fly" is similar to a Bimini with the exception that it is removed from the boat when not in use. Rather than three or four "bows" that a bimini has you would only have one or two bows for the stern and the front end would attach to a dodger with a zipper. Depending on if you have side flaps on the "fly" would could use the main halyard to support the middle of the "fly". I have seen one installed on Paul Akers' 37' which was very interesting and was an easily attached. The canvas guy said it installs in about 5 minutes. Because of the low boom height of the Legend 37 I think that a bimini would not be a good installation. Sorry about the late reply but my computer crashed and I just got it back into operation.
A "fly" is similar to a Bimini with the exception that it is removed from the boat when not in use. Rather than three or four "bows" that a bimini has you would only have one or two bows for the stern and the front end would attach to a dodger with a zipper. Depending on if you have side flaps on the "fly" would could use the main halyard to support the middle of the "fly". I have seen one installed on Paul Akers' 37' which was very interesting and was an easily attached. The canvas guy said it installs in about 5 minutes. Because of the low boom height of the Legend 37 I think that a bimini would not be a good installation. Sorry about the late reply but my computer crashed and I just got it back into operation.
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Paul Akers
Cockpit Enclosure
I've been away for a while and have seen my name mentioned. If you look in the Photo Forum and search for "enclosure", you will see pictures of the enclosure that I had made couple seasons ago. The "fly" attaches to the trailing edge of the dodger (zipper) and reaches aft to a s/s bow that attaches to the stern rail athwartship, also by a zipper (notice how there are cutouts for the split backstay). There is an offset cutout for the traveller to pass through the fly. I now have a lifting ring installed in the center of the fly to which the main halyard attaches to provide lifting support to the fly for the added weight of the panels. The side panels zip to the fly (2 each side) and snap to the combings. The back is wide open for easy access by the ladder. This can be used for motoring, but NOT for sailing. If you need more info, please contact me through the owners' directory of this site. Good Luck.
I've been away for a while and have seen my name mentioned. If you look in the Photo Forum and search for "enclosure", you will see pictures of the enclosure that I had made couple seasons ago. The "fly" attaches to the trailing edge of the dodger (zipper) and reaches aft to a s/s bow that attaches to the stern rail athwartship, also by a zipper (notice how there are cutouts for the split backstay). There is an offset cutout for the traveller to pass through the fly. I now have a lifting ring installed in the center of the fly to which the main halyard attaches to provide lifting support to the fly for the added weight of the panels. The side panels zip to the fly (2 each side) and snap to the combings. The back is wide open for easy access by the ladder. This can be used for motoring, but NOT for sailing. If you need more info, please contact me through the owners' directory of this site. Good Luck.
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