Dock Lines and Cleats

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Scott

What are the correct dock line sizes for a 1988 C27? I have the standard cleats, two on the bow and two on the stern. Also, what is the correct spring line tie-down location? It seems as though there should be a center cleat for the spring lines. The standard cleats are, in my opinion, two small for a 1/2 inch line. I currently have 3/8 inch lines, but after seeing how she moved and how stressed the 3/8 lines where during Isabell makes me concerned. Here in New Jeresy we only had 30 to 40 mph winds and a 2 foot storm surge.
 
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Bayard Gross

Double braided or three strand?

I think you will find that double braided lines will go through your cleat eyes more easily than three strand line. Assuming you use three strand line (which I don't like since I feel you acheive sufficient stretch from nylon double braided lines as from three strand), see if you can borrow a half inch and a seven sixteenths inch double braided line from someone. See if one of these which would both be "larger" than your 3/8 three strand will fit better in your cleats.
 
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Joe

Dock lines

Scott, I have mid-ship cleats on the cabin top mounted by the previous owner, but I have considered removing them if I ever get a dodger. I use the primary winches to anchor the springs when I'm docked elsewhere or rafted up. If there is a middle cleat on the dock you could run the springs from the forward and aft cleats. I think the smartest option is to invest in a pair of 1" genoa track cleats. Look them up in the marine catalogues, they're about $50 a piece. But, as I said, don't forget that you can use the winches. As far as line size, 3/8 is recommended, but I prefer minimum 1/2 inch. If you want to chock the line through the space under the cleat, you'll have to stick with 3/8. Even so I still like the larger line. If you get the double braid with large eye you can double loop it over the cleat. During a blow you might want to secure the loop to the cleat with some nylon webbing. One more thing, on my boat the genoa track runs all the way to the transom, right next to the aft cleat. To prevent the rail from chafing the loop strands on the dock line, I sliced a piece of old garden hose lengthwise and slipped it over the rail. It fits perfectly, and you can easily adjust its postion to allow the dock line to ride over it.
 
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Randy

Dock lines and midship cleats

My permanent mooring lines are 1/2" three strand nylon, spliced to the correct length. The loops in the ends of the lines simply get looped over the cleat. I've added a pair of Schaeffer mid ship cleats that fit the 1" genoa track (one on each side). These serve to hold my spring lines. I agree--the bow and stern cleats are too small, but I still prefer the extra chafe protection of 1/2" lines. I'm not a big fan of drilling new holes in the boat, so I've decided to live with the existing cleats. The primary winches and their associated cleats are also good locations for mooring lines, too. Randy
 
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