Do you use the Nav Table?

Aug 16, 2009
1,000
Hunter 1986 H31 California Yacht Marina, Chula Vista, CA
Dave's thread about adding storage where his legs would go were he to try to sit at the nav table in his Hunter 34 got me thinking about that. When you get to 30' or so, most boats come with a nav table of some kind. For the most part, these are not blue water boats, and as Dave pointed out, modern devices have reduced the need for a lot of charting, particularly for short or coastal cruising. As a newbie, thought it might be interesting to poll the forum on this.
Is the nav table becoming vestigial, in practice more often used for storage than navigation?
 

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
Got rid of mine in my H30. Replaced it with a small hinged table big enough to hold my laptop. I didn't add any storage but it sure opened up more room to move around.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,132
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Our nav station is built in. I keep my tools in in, separated by kitchen utensil holders. Very handy, don't have to drag a tool box out every time I need a screwdriver. I find it's handy for having another flat surface for reading, doing crossword puzzles in the morning with the two of us on board. I don't find it a waste of space at all.
 
May 24, 2004
7,202
CC 30 South Florida
Yes, any charting is done best at the galley table. The concept is archaic but results in a very convenient utility table. Legroom under the station is wasted space, it would be interesting to hear what most sailors use that space for. I have seen dehumidifiers stored there and trash cans but I'm sure there are a thousand other uses.
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,595
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
If you analyze the percentage of time people actually spend sailing vs. at anchor, docked or otherwise at rest, the utility of a small comfortable table at which someone can sit makes sense. If the boat doesn't have sufficient storage, you might have the wrong boat.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,144
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Just about any flat surface on a boat will soon have stuff on it, or under it if a lift-top. My nav desk nearly always has some stuff on it unrelated to navigation whether in the slip or at sea. Sometimes we use it in addition to the galley cabinet tops as a staging area to set up meals, etc. So it receives a lot of ancillary use. But when I need it as a nav station, that is how it functions and I could not be more pleased with that functionality. The top is large enough to lay open a chart book and to sit comfortably examining a chart, plotting positions, etc.; and large enough to store beneath the lift-top nav tools, charts, and logbooks, etc. along with other materials, such as the latest version of Coast Pilot No. 7, harbor maps, & tide books. When we were searching for the boat we have now (Bavaria 38E), up from a Pearson 30, my wife had one principal criterion--an enclosed head. Mine were a permanent navigation station that I could sit and work at, and the ability to routinely make a through-the-water speed of at least 7.5 kt. We got much more than that of course; but any boat lacking those features would not have been a strong candidate.

As for space; the seat itself is also a top-loaded storage box where I keep sailboat hardware such as snatch blocks and winch handles. Under the desk where my legs go I have off to the side a small Ritchie compass that I can read from my sitting position; my 7x50 binoculars in holder, a small inverter, plus that's where I mount my 1 million candlepower spot.
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
My nav table was my dinner table most of the time in my Catalina 30. I singlehanded a lot so I didn't bother to break down the dining table.

I also used it for my laptop. I spent a lot of time there because of this. I rarely actually used it to plot courses.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,150
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I use the settee table in teh 34 when I have to look at a chart .. The area under the nav table is fine for a 28 quart Coleman cooler .. keeps the drinks out of the sun so the ice lasts longer. The best thing about the nav table in the 34 is the fine liquor and glasses locker built into the aft end! Under my folding top lives: ship's papers, Autopilot operating manual, nav instruments (protractor etc), a pair of pliers and a phillips and standard screwdriver, and some other stuff. Great table, but I don't use it for nav work.
 
Oct 2, 2006
1,517
Jboat J24 commack
On distance races which have a much higher probability of OS we keep paper and pencil in the location , heading ,speed ect every hour

On more casual stuff we just wing it
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,762
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Is the nav table becoming vestigial, in practice more often used for storage than navigation?
Yes.
I've said before it is a marketing item to appeal to men's egos.
At least it should be re-named to "The technology center" of some other moniker which designates the area as being for using, configuring and monitoring ship's systems, electronics, communications and internet.
I would like a flat screen monitor which can be assigned to GPS/Chart Plotter, or Internet pages, or Imaging from cameras, or TV broadcasts, or metrics for battery system monitoring and whatever else one can imagine. If you can see the monitor, and have a remote, you don't need to sit there. Or, maybe the other way around. Your cell phone can run the whole deal while you sit in the cockpit or your bunk.
As for charts the dinette table works fine. And you don't need to move stuff off it to get into the storage. I'd rather have a longer bunk than a dedicated chart table.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,132
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
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At least it should be re-named to "The technology center" of some other moniker which designates the area as being for using, configuring and monitoring ship's systems, electronics, communications and internet.
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The new Catalinas are doing just that, 5 series boats. An insert for the laptop.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
i took mine out when redoing the inside it was a hokey burnt offering from s2 along with the swing out stool that was mounted on the engine cover...the salon table or the sideboard i built will be for charts and such ...i think if you have a boat with a nav table it should be a boat big enough to not have to share the space with some other function
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,811
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Yes, any charting is done best at the galley table. The concept is archaic but results in a very convenient utility table. Legroom under the station is wasted space, it would be interesting to hear what most sailors use that space for. I have seen dehumidifiers stored there and trash cans but I'm sure there are a thousand other uses.
Yep, galley table and Nav table where we can lay out the paper charts plotting the next day's course.

Legroom has toolboxes and recycle bin.

We have a dual head chartplotter so my wife plots courses below while I'm at the helm, but we are cruising and feel more of a need to be organized. We didn't do that so much with our Catalina since we only traveled in New England.

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Jan 22, 2008
1,674
Hunter 34 Alameda CA
We use ours for navigating. I got tired of those hinges sticking up interfering with the flatness of the table so I removed them and installed the flush hinges into the edges of the two lids. Now I have a smooth surface. I use the Northern California Chart Guide (spiral book) to lay out all my courses on paper prior to departure. Then while underway the chart book, log book and netbook are all on the table. Plotting tools and papers are inside the main area. The wine rack has my Harbor Freight stainless steel screw assortment (little case with slide out drawers) and flashlights stowed. Pencils and dividers are in the little rack on the bulkhead.

I don't use the settee table as we hung an oil lamp from the grab rail above and to keep it from swinging I drilled a hole in the table and installed a loop made of bungee material. Works great.
 

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Mar 26, 2011
3,836
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
I cut mine down to size and converted it into a work area. Worked out well.