Do you cover your sailboat for the winter?

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Feb 6, 1998
11,694
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Covers..

If you build your own pitch, pitch, pitch. Custom covers are great but who you buy from often determines the quality, fit & finish. I've seen custom covers that are generally a sloppy fit when compared to say Fairclough cover. Fit is very important in a winter cover.

Perhaps in the mid west the snows are not wet and heavy but here in Maine I've seen 6" collapse covers due to the saturation and moisture in the snow (see photos below which were the result of was 6-7")..

Winter covers from Fairclough are expensive but also a good value. A cover for my 36' boat is $3200.00 +/- and will last more than ten years if well cared for and a shrink wrap cover is $700.00 each winter. It would take me only 5 years worth of shrink wrapping to pay for a Fairclough then the next five+ years would be free.

To this day I still choose to shrink wrap because I do not want even soft cotton canvas in contact with my Awlgrip painted hull all winter.

My only gripe with the custom canvas covers is that they rarely have enough pitch for Maine and will usually require, at additional expense, internal snow strut braces on top of the regular frame. They also require getting under them to bust the snow off when it gets too deep & heavy. Also canvas just does not shed snow like a shrink wrap cover does and tends to grip the snow vs. releasing it and letting it just slide off.

If you decide to make your own cover just remember:

#1 Pitch

#2 Cross ties at stanchions (prevents snow load from breaking or bending stanchions inward)

#3 Breathability and ventilation

#4 Perimeter board - prevents cover from resting on stanchions and poking through or loading/stressing the lifelines.

#5 If you use your mast as a ridge pole support it in multiple locations not just at the ends. There have been more than a few masts bent from supporting snow loads.

Cross ties:


P.S. I know I spelled perimeter wrong but I suck at MS Paint and spelling was the furthest thing from my mind.:doh::doh:

Good Pitch = No Snow:

The material and the design are the two biggest contributors to snow shedding. Shrink wrap sheds snow like crazy.


This particular custom made Fariclough cover has a lower than ideal pitch, I've seen some made by the same folks with a much higher pitch, and when we get freezing rain that then turns to snow things like to stick to the canvas. Nothing beats cotton duck though for breathability!!

Minimal/Marginal Pitch:


If you build your own don't cut corners. These are all home made failures. I counted 9 collapsed covers in just this one 6-7" storm..






Top Shop vs. Fairclough on fit. This is a comparison of fit between two of the bigger cover makers. I know which one I would want...;)

Top Shop Cover: (photo courtesy Top Shop)



Fariclough Colver: (Photo Courtesy Bob S.)
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,401
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Check with your yard regarding DIY covers. They are specifically not allowed in any of the yards I've used here on Eastern LI. Don't use shrink wrap if you have a painted hull - specifically polyurethane. The trapped moisture can bubble the paint.
 

Gail R

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Apr 22, 2009
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Pearson 34 Freeport, ME
MaineSail... question:

I see that you've got a little opening between the bottom of your cover and your slotted toerail. Are you at all concerned about moisture getting in underneath, settling in some really bad spot (like a chainplate), then freezing and thawing a bunch of times? You know how the snow sometimes comes down sideways in these parts!

Your frame looks like a finely engineered design, just like I would expect!
 
Jun 8, 2004
853
Pearson 26W Marblehead
covering my boat for the winter

Well guys I guess I gotta disagree again. My previous boat a pearson 10M I owned for 20
years and my present boat a Pearson 26 W Ive owned for 10 I live in MA plenty of snow and Ice. I never covered either boat in 30 years. Nothing has happened period. No Ice
damage, No mildew. About 50 years ago when I bought my first boat which was wood I did cover it mainly to protect the bright work. as soon a I got a fiberglass boat with very little wood I stopped covering. What am I missing..
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
3,269
S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
Probably just a NY thing...

Check with your yard regarding DIY covers. They are specifically not allowed in any of the yards I've used here on Eastern LI. Don't use shrink wrap if you have a painted hull - specifically polyurethane. The trapped moisture can bubble the paint.

...to keep the Red Sox fans away :D
 

kenn

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Apr 18, 2009
1,271
CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
We found that a motorboat cover for 18 to 20 ft boats was a reasonable fit for our 19ft boat. I made a simple frame out of 2x2s to span the cockpit area and support any snow load. There's enough gapping to allow for ventilation.

 
Feb 6, 1998
11,694
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
MaineSail... question:

I see that you've got a little opening between the bottom of your cover and your slotted toerail. Are you at all concerned about moisture getting in underneath, settling in some really bad spot (like a chainplate), then freezing and thawing a bunch of times? You know how the snow sometimes comes down sideways in these parts!

Your frame looks like a finely engineered design, just like I would expect!
Not at all. I am more concerned with lots of snow sitting on the deck which would cause it to literally rain inside the boat during temp swings from condensation. I like the ventilation and it keeps about 99% of the snow off the decks.

My hardware is bedded well so I have no worries about water getting under it, freezing & expanding. What I find is that if any little but of snow gets under the cover it melts out quickly because the sun heats the cover on warm days. I've been covering like this for four years and not had any issues with the 4" opening. I also covered my other Awlgrip boat like this for a number of years and also never had an issue.

You can thank the guys at Royal River Boat Yard for the frame design. Alan does not and will not acept bent stanchons, colapsed covers or customers who have had damage from one of his shrink wrap jobs. They have done a great job with their frame design and in keeping customers happy! They also build it high enough so I can do any deck work I feel necessary. under there..

Someday I may get a Fairclough but stopping at the toe rail has left my Awgrip in amazing condition..
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
1,782
Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
Maine,
Did you rebed all the hardware on the deck or was it built that way? If I keep going on my boat I'll never want to sell her and start all the same projects again!
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,292
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
For anyone considering how to cover or when making a purchase decision for a new one, I would suggest you strongly consider a boom tent type cover. With a short extension to the bow, this type cover is far superior to the ubiquitous tarps and equal in protection to the much more expensive whole boat covers plus it requires no support construction which is a pain in the butt and requires way more effort and time than it deserves in my opinion.
When I checked comparable prices, my canvas guy made this from reinforced UV-resistant material substantially cheaper than the alternative whole boat cover.

We all tend to have "pride of authorship" in our decisions so I'm suggesting this simply because it appears to be an approach many have not previously considered.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
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Hunter 30_74-83 Cincinnati OH
Port Clinton on Lake Erie, 30' sail stored with the mast down, 2 blue tarps (new every year) , 20 x 10 foot tarp over the cabin area and a 8 x 10 over the cockpit. Seems to have worked for the last 20 years.

Best tip I have is to stick old socks in all the tru hulls so the damned bees don't build a nest in them. It sucks when you have to disassemble the head after launching to clean out all the bees.
 
Jul 31, 2009
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2 Contest 36s Sag Harbor
I've covered with shrink wrap and also wintered with no cover in water in Long Island Sound. Frankly last winter we had lots of snow and I was at the boat almost every weekend and it hardly built up and in the end it didn't seem to matter. I did run the heater when I was aboard. Cleaning the deck took a bit more elbow grease, but not terribbly much more. Once the gel coat parts were waxed she looked as good as new.

Cover is not necessary if you "attend" to your boat regularly, which I do. It's nice and warm in there, but with heat below it didn't much matter. I have little brightwork but I would cover them it plastic and duck tape where I do.

I don't think it makes much difference. I prefer to get some ventilation too.
 
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dmc1

life line stanchions

Covered boat in Michigan........cover it with a tent style to shed snow. DO NOT allow the life line stanchions to bear the weight of the snow........they will bend. I use plastic tarps and 1" pvc pipe to create the tent. I tie the edges of the tarp to the toe rail inside the stanchions.

Peace
dmc
 
Oct 16, 2010
1
Sabre 29 Marion
Better than Fairclough

What is the better than Fairclough design you mention?

Anyone know the best way to attach a cover frame (wood or PVC) to the boat? I have a Sabre 29 that will be stored with the mast off. I plan to either:
1. Build a frame and cover it w/ canvas, or
2. Buy a frame and cover, but haven't been able to find anyone (online) that sells them for sailboats. Anyone?
Happy sailing,
Ware

Long term, if you have to store on the hard, the best bet is to buy a custom winter cover. My 30' boat has a Fairclough Boom tent, which was about $1400. A boom tent, as it sounds, is deployed with the mast up. There is a slightly better design than Fairclough, which covers the toe rail. Mine doesn't and the cover can sag with a significant snow-load, as we had last year. Still, it probably would have given my usual tarp and frame system a run for its money too and I only got up on her and shoveled her off once and she was fine. Shrink wrapping at $300-500/year means the ROI on the cover is reasonable, plus it adds value to the boat if you sell later.

They also make complete covers that come down to the water line for about $2000. If I had to buy one new now, I'd probably buy a boom tent again, but one that covers my toe rails, just for ease of deployment. My friend has the full cover and says its no problem to deploy, but he has a smaller boat (freedom 28).

The other options are to build a frame and use large tarps, which is simpler than it sounds...say $200 the first season. A good tip if you want to use PVC for a frame is to contact a local well company. Up here they are replacing PVC well piping with continuous lengths and getting rid of the PVC is a problem for them. It is a good way to potentially get a few hundred feet of 1.5 inch PVC for free.

There are often groups of friends who get together to buy a good shrinkwrapping gun for joint fall shrinkwrapping parties. That is another way to go. If I recall, a gun is about $300, and buying one might be a way to make new friends!
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Damn!! Am I happy that my boat is not in a place where the water gets hard during the winter?

Well, yes I am!
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,694
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
A lot depends on how exposed the boat is to winds. In WI, I was out of the wind, protected by buildings and blue tarps worked great. In Olcott, I am right on the lake and even good tarps need to be monitored during the winter. since I am now wintering in FL, IO go the shrink wrap route, but leave the mast up.
 

pogo2

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Sep 26, 2008
97
Newport 30 Mklll North Tonawanda, NY
yes we cover

I finally bought a custom cover 3 years ago, and its one of the best investments for the boat. Cockpit drains freeze over and the cockpit fills with snow and leaves, its just not healthy for the boat tobe subject to all this winter abuse. I live in Tonawanda,NY just north of Buffalo so we do get our fair share of snow and 80+ winds in the winter. I put 2 ceramic heaters in the boat and on the coldest days of January I can be working inside the boat in warmth. Pics of my cover, it goes from the boom to the water line, like a mini garage.
 

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Nov 28, 2009
495
Catalina 30 St. Croix
We actually use the boat all winter long here in St. Croix and take the boat to Trinidad and cover it in the summer
 
Nov 20, 2007
27
Flying Scot and self built wooden dingy 19 foot and V12 WV and MD
I always covered the Catalina 25 and later the 36 for the winter. I built a frame out of wood to make a tent over the cockpit. I didn't use the boom for supporting the tarps. I stripped off all the sails. Inside I put out 3 buckets of "No Damp" and left the dorades open for ventilation. I used the brown/silver tarps (some times the blues didn't last the whole winter) and weighted them down with gallon jugs filled 3/4 with water.
 
Sep 27, 2008
95
Catalina 30 Lake Champlain
For those of you who store your boats with the mast up and cover it yourself with tarps, how do you seal the tarps around the mast and the stays? I ask because this will be my first winter storing our boat with the mast up, so the process is new to me. In the past we always stored with the mast down, but it's a new (to us) boat and new marina.

Thanks.

Bob
 
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