DIY TITANIUM HOSE FITTING FOR STERN TUBE IN BENETEAU

Alfa

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Mar 19, 2015
38
Beneteau 31 North Vancouver
OEM hose fitting in Beneteau stern tube has metric thread M10-1.5. The hose fitting can be made by modifying M10-1.5 x 60mm long bolt and M10-1.5 hex flanged nut from the highly resistant to sea water corrosion Titanium (Ti). Titanium fasteners are available on eBay at reasonable cost, machining however is difficult due to low thermal conductivity and high hot hardness of material.

Described DIY Titanium hose fitting can be also made from M10-1.5, 316 SS bolt and hex nut. However, even if passivated after machining, 316 SS may develop in time pitting corrosion in the stagnant, Oxygen deficient sea water in the stern tube.

On PIC 1 are shown all required dimensions for the Ti fitting, Drilling Jig and drill bitts. Drilling Jig is made from a piece of hardwood cut on a mitre saw and holes drilled on a bench drill press. After drilling, the wood was cut by a hand saw.
PIC 2 shows ordered 70mmTitanium bolt and flanged hex nut. Bolt was cut with a hacksaw. Both ends of the bolt were finished to required length on a bench grinder. Flange of the Titanium nut was also removed on a bench grinder.
To make dimple on both sides of the bolt and ensure drilling in the centre of the bolt, the Centre Drill was fixed in the V shaped notch of a drilling vice and Titanium bolt was rotated in the chuck of the drill press.
See You Tube: “How do you make a hole in a steel rod”. This trick was used ONLY for making dimples on both ends of Ti bolt.
PIC 3 shows drilling hole on a drill press using Drilling Jig. This is most difficult task in modification of the bolt, but possible:

• Use lowest RPM in the drill press
• Buy Cobalt drill bits
• Make VERY FREQUENT PECKING to remove chips and to cool the drill bit with a cutting fluid
• Drill 1/2 depth from both sides to reduce heat drilling deep hole and to drill from the other side when broken drill is stuck in the hole

On PIC 4 are finished fittings made from Ti and SS. Score bottom of the nut and lower sides of the hex with a hacksaw. There is no need for barbs on the hose fitting; hydrostatic pressure at the depth of the fitting is lower than 1psi, and 3/8” DIA hose should be pulled-off from the fitting during haul out to check for calcium/salt blockages.

NOTE:
• To prevent breaking OEM hose fitting during removal from the stern tube, use soldering iron to heat the fitting and soften epoxy.
• Put hex nut on Titanium fitting and bond/seal with epoxy before installation of the fitting in the stern tube.
• For bonding I used J-B Marine Weld Epoxy mixed to desired consistency with Cab-O-Sil.
 

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Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
1,804
Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
Very nice write up and very clever!
Question on the need for the nut? I have yet to remove the old brass/bronze fitting so I am assuming the M10 is already tapped into the stern tube which is glass. Is there metal under it? Can't this be hand tightened and epoxied to seal it in place? I was under the assumption the original Beneteau fitting was an 1/8 NPT thread hense the need for the hex. Thanks for the clarification!
 

Alfa

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Mar 19, 2015
38
Beneteau 31 North Vancouver
Bob, answers to your questions: 1. I used hex nut on the fitting to increase bonding to the composite stern tube surface
2. Correct, stern tube has threaded hole M10-1.5 (this is a standard, corse thread: 10mm OD, 1.5mm pitch)
3. No metal insert in the tube.
4. During installation of the hose fitting (small amount of epoxy applied to both threaded parts, to the bottom of hex nut and donut shaped epoxy approx 3/16” in height to the surface of the tube) I used Drilling Jig to screw in and hand tighten the fitting. When hex nut was in contact with the tube, I applied SMALL torque. Good lighting and small mirror taped to the muffler helped.
5. I did not know what thread is used and did not received response from Beneteau US. I also assumed thread is 1/8” NPT: shops in US and Canada are selling and replacing broken fittings with automotive Brass 1/8” NPT - 3/8” hose fittings (Brass contain up to 30% Zn!). After removing OEM fitting in my boat I verified thread is M10. Atached PIC show stern tube plugged with M10 screw and epoxi on the 30 year old Beneteau First. I help also to plug broken M10 fitting in Beneteau First 32.5 build in 1994. In 2020, on this Forum, BigEasy published imported OEM fitting from France which visually had M10 corse thread.
 

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Jun 21, 2004
2,900
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
Bob, answers to your questions: 1. I used hex nut on the fitting to increase bonding to the composite stern tube surface
Great write-up and photos.
I usually remove the stern tube nipple on haulout to check for corrosion and blockage. Cut the rubber hose to remove it from the nipple. Grab the nipple with vise grip pliers, close to the epoxy fillet, to remove the nipple from the stern tube. After cleaning the nipple (if reusable),
I coat the threads with teflon tape and apply a small amount of 4200. Thread the nipple back into the epoxy fillet & stern tube and tighten gently/slightly. Reattach the hose after allowing sufficient time for the 4200 to set.
 

Alfa

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Mar 19, 2015
38
Beneteau 31 North Vancouver
One more thing: If the stern tube in your boat is supplied with sea water from the Yanmar heat exchanger drain port and you need to replace this hose fitting, be aware that Yanmar is built in metric system. ISO adopted Imperial BSP pipe threads. The hose fitting installed in the Yanmar heat exchanger has 1/8”BSPT thread (British Standard Pipe Tapered thread). The thread is very similar to 1/8”NPT, but is not compatible. Taper and OD is the same in both, but 1/8”BSPT has 55 thread angle and 19 Threads Per Inch. 1/8”NPT thread has 60 thread angle and 18 TPI.
 

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