Diagonal ripple in main sail

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Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
This weekend I replaced the sail clips on the foot of my main sail. I also adjusted the out-haul to tighten the foot. When the main sail is up, I see a diagonal ripple from about 1/3 up the luff extending to the clew of the sail. Is that an indication of too tight a foot, or luff, or both? And should I relax that ripple or leave it? Will it affect the draft of the main? Thanks
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Girts !!!! ....

Are the generation of 'creases' from too much pressure/tension on ONE corner of a woven dacron sail. A girt means that you exceeded the tension designed for the sail by 'stretch' in one direction. Assuming that one of the sail slugs at the luff isnt 'too tight' in its connection to its grommet ..... *** To avoid 'girts'**** you need to adjust TWO corners. So if you have put in lots of tension to the outhaul, you also need to add some pressure to the halyard (or cunningham) to 'balance the load in the cloth'. Its normal for a woven dacron sail when overtensioned by halyard AND outhaul to have girts somewhat parallel to the leech, usually eminating from the 'corners'. If you radically overtension the luff (by halyard or cunningham) on a woven dacron sail, a large crease (girt) will form parallel to the luff. If you radically overtension the foot (by outhaul) a large grease will form somewhat parallel to the foot. If you radically overtension both the luff and the foot, girts will begin to form on a diagonal between the head and the clew. What it really means is that the cloth is too light weight for the wind/shaping conditions or is 'too stretchable'. To remove 'girts' adjust by 'any' sail shaping control that is located near perpendicular to the girt. Eg. put in more halyard tension to remove the girt that is parallel to the boom. Other: If one sail slug on the luff has its connection length (sewn tape, sail twine or plastic slug shackle) smaller that the rest/adjacent slug connections along the luff this 'shortening' of the slug's connection distance will sometimes cause a 'girt' when the outhaul is overtensioned. Make sure that all the slugs are the SAME distance from the luff bolrope or luff tape .... as the one at the 'end' of the girt may be too tight. Girts wont form as easily on a sail made from 'very good' (less stretchable) dacron cloth (Bainbridge, Contender, etc. cloth). hope this helps
 
Jun 13, 2005
559
Irwin Barefoot 37 CC Sloop Port Orchard WA
Brian, RichH is on the money here but he assumed

that one of the sail slugs at the luff isnt 'too tight' in its connection to its grommet, and that might actually be the problem. He explained that ---If one sail slug on the luff has its connection (sewn tape, sail twine or plastic slug shackle) smaller that the rest/adjacent slug connections along the luff this 'shortening' of the slug's connection distance will sometimes cause a 'girt' when the outhaul is overtensioned. Make sure that all the slugs are the SAME distance from the luff bolrope or luff tape .... as the one at the 'end' of the girt may be too tight.-----and he is still right, but sometimes a plastic sail shackle will flip sideways and hang up, such that it pulls sideways on the shackle instead of longways and creates that short distance even though all the slide and shackle combinations are the same size. Good luck Joe S
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Ha ha ha --- Yes !!!!

And if you snap-gybe with plastic shackles that are slipped and hung up on their sides..... you wind up with an instant spinnaker !!!!!!! *cry
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
I had the problem with the foot

shackles slipping and of course, one broke. That is why I replaced all of them. I need to replace the luff shackles also. But I did not notice if any of them were hanging up. I'll check that next time. Plus I'll relax the outhaul and the halyard next time I raise the main. Thanks guys. A 'girt' is it? New term for me.
 
Nov 12, 2006
256
Catalina 36 Bainbridge Island
Also

Make sure that the main sheet is not holding the boom down during hoisting, as this will cause a "Girt".
 
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