Cutlass Bearing Replacement

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gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
Hello All, I am getting ready to replace the cutlass bearing on my Catalina 30. The current bearing is in a strut and I am hearing horror stories about removal. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to remove it and then replace it? I have heard thing from banging away at it to purchasing a removal tool (i located the Strut-Pro but can't seem to find anyone who sells it or how much it costs!). Thanks!! Jack Manning S/V Victim of Fate 1979 Catalina 30 Atlantic City, NJ
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
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This was just discussed. Search the archives. Tim R.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Check the archives .....

There has been a lot of recent discusion on removal of cutLESS bearings. CutLASS is a sword for slashing, not a hydrodynamic plain bearing - a cutless.
 
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Landsend

Actually, it's not very hard to do.

Only if you run into problems is it hard. First you remove the prop. Next you remove all paint on the shaft between the prop and the back side of the strut. Also you remove the paint on both sides of the strut to get to the set screws that hold in the cutlass bearing. Soak everything a penetrating oil or WD40. Then you remove the two set screws that hold the bearing in place. Next you tap out the cutlass bearing. Hammer and chisel or hammer and block of wood, whatever works. Being careful not to hit or nick the propeller shaft. Sometimes a bit of heat on the strut helps. Put the new bearing in the freezer to shrink it. Grease the shaft and the outside of the new bearing and slide it into position. Some light tapping may be required. Tighten the set screws. Grease the prop mount and reinstall the prop. Then paint the entire area with bottom paint. Good luck.
 
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mike

i just got back from doing this!!!

i used a strut pro from a member of this forum!!! he loaned it to me for a slight fee plus shipping. put a note out to him on the forum thats how i found it after recalling an old post. it still took a couple of hours to do. after doing it i dont see how landsend method will work with the shaft still in. i bought my bearing on pyacht .com for about $45, it was the cheapest i found good luck mike
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
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Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
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of changing mine. It is original 20-years and is very hard to move. The set screws both stripped. I drilled them out and now am cutting the bearing in a few places and will collapse it within the strut. Obviously, the shaft has been removed. Not always an easy endevor. Greg
 
Feb 10, 2004
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Hunter 426 Rock Hall, MD
cutless bearing

Instead of removing the shaft I removed the prop (and sent it out of repair/refurbishing) and the strut. The strut was givin to a body shop friend who "pressed" it out. Another option is to use a saw blade to cut the bearing sleeve from the inside after the strut has been removed. You must be very careful not to score the inside of the strut.
 
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Landsend

You don't have to remove the shaft.

I've never had to remove the shaft on to re3place a cutlass bearing. I've seen the boatyard do it the same way also.
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
Thank everyone!

Great advice. I'll be working on that this coming w/e. And Rich, I'll make sure my surveyor gets the spelling correction!! When he showed it to me, theat was the first I've ever heard of it! Kinda new at the ownership thing! Jack Manning S/V Victim of Fate 1979 Catalina 30 Atlantic City, NJ
 
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gary

don't use a hammer

To remove bearing you will ruin strut.Look on this site for some one to rent a pro strut from. It is the only way. Took me an hour to remove and replace mine.On many boats you either have remove the rudder or lift the engine to remove the shaft. Good luck
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
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Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Cutless replacement (in a strut)

I wrote this up for a friend who is replacing his cutless on a Catalina 30. It includes some stuff that I've posted here not too long ago. hope this helps. -------------------------------------- To remove the bearing, remove the set screws in the bearing housing, remove the shaft, use a hacksaw/holder and make a cut all the way through the bearing (along the longitudinal axis), then use a drift pin through the set screw holes to crush the bearing. Pull the bearing out with a needle nosed pliers. You may have to use a gouge chisel to help loosen the bearing .... dont bugger the ID of the strut housing bore as its VERY important to the 'final' size of the bearing. The set screws are only a back-up to restrain the bearing in case it gets hot. What holds the bearing in place is a press fit - the bearing is 0,001" / inch of housing diameter *larger* than the bore of the hole in the strut. You force the larger OD bearing into the ID of the bore - ie.: a 1.500" OD bearing woud fit into a ~1.4985" hole. The *press fit* keeps the bearing in place. The set screws are there only for 'safety'. Dont even think of using a hammer to seat the bearing ... use a long heavy bolt and nut and apply the 'correct sized' ratchet wrench socket and heavy washers to the bolt, apply the bearing and 'screw' the bearing into the strut housing. For buggered set screws, run a tap into the bore to dress the threads, etc. Its good practice to clean/dress the shaft so that all the surface galling is removed and to produce a super-smooth bearing surface, then using a micrometer measure the shaft and measure the ID of the bore in the strut. Take the dimensions to the bearing dealer/manufacturer and let them calculate the dimensions AFTER you press fit the bearing into the strut --- which should after pressing it into the strut develop an operating clearance of about 0,003" for every 1" of shaft diameter. ..... then realign the engine for perfect/true running of the cutless bearing. Its IDIOTIC to NOT remove and inspect the shaft as any galling caused by the previous bearing will still be there if you press in a new bearing and not inspect the shaft. You can take the shaft to a machinist for dressing or use emery cloth followed by crocus cloth to repolish the shaft where the bearing runs. When reinstalling the new cutless (using a long bolt and nuts and a wrench to do the 'pressing' (intereference fit)) its best to heat the bearing housing with a torch and put the new bearing into either dry ice or water/ice ..... the ID of the housing will be LARGER and OD of the cutless bearing will be SMALLER. As soon as you get the bearing 'home' immediately (not two minutes later or after I go a 'pee') pour cold water to set the bearing and prevent melting of the polymer bearing material. Bearing sizing .... use a micrometer and measure the shaft (after dressing a new surface on it) to the closest 'thousandth', measure the ID of the bearing housing (COLD) ... then call a distributor of the cutless bearing and LET HIM calculate the proper installed operating clearance .... typically 0.003" per inch of shaft diameter. The distributor will include the 'intereference fit' when you PRESS the bearing ... the ID of the bearing gets SMALLER when you press it into the bore of the strut. ... Let the distributor do this, its their JOB. Then reinstall the shaft (with water soluble grease on the bearing, reattach the shaft flange .... let the shaft seek its OWN level (but in the CENTER of the stuffing box, THEN realign the engine to exactly meet the engine output flange with the UNDISTURBED prop shaft. MOVE the ENGINE mounts to meet the x,y,z requirements of the SHAFT. Use a feeler gauge between the faces of the coupler flanges to insure proper fit and PROPER ENGINE ALIGNMENT ... should be WITHIN 0,001" around the face of both flanges. If you dont do this the shaft will bend when turning, you will get a large 'kicking sound' as the shaft 'whips' ... and the bearing will soon be destroyed. Buy a 'stock' bearing from West marine or Catlina, etc.? ... not in this lifetime. If you want to do the job all over again in a few short years, dont dress the shaft and put in a stock bearing. Do the job RIGHT. A cutless is destroyed by two things - silt in the water and a galled shaft, you should dress the shaft and put in a 'properly sized' bearing. If you dont, the shaft will 'precess' (orbit) in the bearing (unless its always running a very high rpm) and will soon wear out, and you will do the job alll over again - sooner than later. Do the assembly and then consider to use "GFO" all teflon packing in the stuffing box instead of flax .... no drip/leakage and no friction and the stuff is 'permanent'. PTFE packing is air-permeable so you wont have as much galling on a stainless shaft because the little bit of water that gets into the packing will be 'oxygen-rich' and wont cause the stainless to become un-stainless because of the oxygen present in the water and (air permeable) packing. We use such PTFE for 'perfusion' of gases into liquids, etc. hope this helps.
 
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