On the H23, there are access holes placed every so often under the berth cushions. Does anyone use the space below for anything? Storage? If so, do you have any tips for keeping things stored there from shifting, moving, etc.? Or is this just space to be ignored? Also, I plan on using the port lazerette inthe cockpit for storing docklines, fenders, etc. Any tips on keeping that space organized? Has anyone installed hangers or racks in there to make it more useable?
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The Great Challenge
You will find it hard to keep your cockpit locker organized. It is a very large size and tends to accumulate a lot of supplies. This winter I made 2 shelves which are placed up high in the aft end. These will be used to store my BBQ and Throwing Line. The only other suggestion is to use large rubbermaid containers with lids to store similar items in. Write on the lids to identify the contents. Good Luck
You will find it hard to keep your cockpit locker organized. It is a very large size and tends to accumulate a lot of supplies. This winter I made 2 shelves which are placed up high in the aft end. These will be used to store my BBQ and Throwing Line. The only other suggestion is to use large rubbermaid containers with lids to store similar items in. Write on the lids to identify the contents. Good Luck
Rubbermaid
We use a lot of Rubbermaid storage containers of varying size in all the storage bins on our 240. Although we don't label them, we try to keep similar items grouped together. Also, we make use of the small plastic containers the usually go in fishing tackle boxes. They have resizeable slots so we're able to store everything from screws, washers, nuts, bolts etc in one of these containers and knives, forks, spoons, salt, pepper and sugar packets in another. They're pretty cheap and you can store dozens of them in a small space.
We use a lot of Rubbermaid storage containers of varying size in all the storage bins on our 240. Although we don't label them, we try to keep similar items grouped together. Also, we make use of the small plastic containers the usually go in fishing tackle boxes. They have resizeable slots so we're able to store everything from screws, washers, nuts, bolts etc in one of these containers and knives, forks, spoons, salt, pepper and sugar packets in another. They're pretty cheap and you can store dozens of them in a small space.
Under berth storage
Joel, Using a jig saw, I cut an opening in the wooded berth support so I didn't have to keep pulling the cushions up everytime I wanted something from the underberth storage. I keep everything organized in rubbermaid wash pans. I cut the hole large enough so that the wash pan can go in by its short width and then turn the pan 90 degrees so it can't slide out. Works great for storing disches pots, pans, and tools. For the port lazzerette, I installed pole holder clips just under the opening and use them to istore my collapsable boat hook. I epoxied two small plywood pads ~ 2"x2" to the inside wall and then smounted the clips on these pads with stainless steel screws. I also installed Ronstan Line hangers ($4 a pair from west marine) using the same techniques. These use a loop of 1/4" shockcord to hold things in place and are great for handging lines and life jackets. Hope this helps. Ted S.
Joel, Using a jig saw, I cut an opening in the wooded berth support so I didn't have to keep pulling the cushions up everytime I wanted something from the underberth storage. I keep everything organized in rubbermaid wash pans. I cut the hole large enough so that the wash pan can go in by its short width and then turn the pan 90 degrees so it can't slide out. Works great for storing disches pots, pans, and tools. For the port lazzerette, I installed pole holder clips just under the opening and use them to istore my collapsable boat hook. I epoxied two small plywood pads ~ 2"x2" to the inside wall and then smounted the clips on these pads with stainless steel screws. I also installed Ronstan Line hangers ($4 a pair from west marine) using the same techniques. These use a loop of 1/4" shockcord to hold things in place and are great for handging lines and life jackets. Hope this helps. Ted S.
Lazarette line storage
Hi Joel, One of my solutions to the storage dilemma was to install a line organizer in my lazarette. Mine is made from scrap wood (free at my local hardware store!) and about $8.00 worth of "Bicycle hangar" hooks. The installation went something like this: (Note: I was already replacing the rub rail, and had it off the boat. When the white Rub rail moulding is off, the hull/deck joint screws are exposed...) First, I backed out 6 of the hull/deck joint screws along the lazarette, and replaced them with stainless screws that were about 1 and a half inches longer than the originals. I then crawled into the lazarette with the scrap of lumber (about 4 1/2 feet of 2x4, one edge was buggered up- fits nicely into that corner!) to mark where I need to drill the pilot holes for the attachment screws. Drill the pilots; then get back into the lazarette to hold the wood in place while someone on the outside of the boat drives the screws into the pilot holes. Next, determine where you want the hooks to go, drill the pilots for them, and screw them in (or get your friend from the last step to do it). Finally, coil up lines and hang neatly. Accept compliments, and give your friend a cold beverage. ;o) I've posted photos in the Photo Forum. They didn't turn out as nice as I'd like, but I can't get my camera far enough away from the installation to get the whole thing in the picture... --Jon Bastien H23 2 Sheets to the Wind
Hi Joel, One of my solutions to the storage dilemma was to install a line organizer in my lazarette. Mine is made from scrap wood (free at my local hardware store!) and about $8.00 worth of "Bicycle hangar" hooks. The installation went something like this: (Note: I was already replacing the rub rail, and had it off the boat. When the white Rub rail moulding is off, the hull/deck joint screws are exposed...) First, I backed out 6 of the hull/deck joint screws along the lazarette, and replaced them with stainless screws that were about 1 and a half inches longer than the originals. I then crawled into the lazarette with the scrap of lumber (about 4 1/2 feet of 2x4, one edge was buggered up- fits nicely into that corner!) to mark where I need to drill the pilot holes for the attachment screws. Drill the pilots; then get back into the lazarette to hold the wood in place while someone on the outside of the boat drives the screws into the pilot holes. Next, determine where you want the hooks to go, drill the pilots for them, and screw them in (or get your friend from the last step to do it). Finally, coil up lines and hang neatly. Accept compliments, and give your friend a cold beverage. ;o) I've posted photos in the Photo Forum. They didn't turn out as nice as I'd like, but I can't get my camera far enough away from the installation to get the whole thing in the picture... --Jon Bastien H23 2 Sheets to the Wind
Under berth storage
I felt I'd better let the line organizer have its own post... For under berth storage, I've found that Rubbermaid containers work wonders. The largest one I can get through the opening under the seat cushions is a 7-qt (I think); If you try to drop it straight in, it's exactly the same size as the opening; if you turn it a little, you can get 3 or 4 of them into one of the compartments, depending on which compartment you're trying to use. These spaces are great for holding things you don't need to get to very often, like extra batteries for the radio, or the sun shower (when not in use), or the coffee pot (only used once a day), or the bungees and lines you use when trailering the boat (not much use underway...), or a tarp or three, or canned foods, or cleaning supplies in a bucket... Lots of things that can be stored under the berths; You just don't want to store anything that you need when you're underway, or anything you want to get to frequently. I would also avoid storing anything there that can't get wet (no electronics or clothing there on my boat!). If there are any leaks at all on the boat, the water will find its way into these spaces. --Jon Bastien H23 '2 Sheets to the Wind'
I felt I'd better let the line organizer have its own post... For under berth storage, I've found that Rubbermaid containers work wonders. The largest one I can get through the opening under the seat cushions is a 7-qt (I think); If you try to drop it straight in, it's exactly the same size as the opening; if you turn it a little, you can get 3 or 4 of them into one of the compartments, depending on which compartment you're trying to use. These spaces are great for holding things you don't need to get to very often, like extra batteries for the radio, or the sun shower (when not in use), or the coffee pot (only used once a day), or the bungees and lines you use when trailering the boat (not much use underway...), or a tarp or three, or canned foods, or cleaning supplies in a bucket... Lots of things that can be stored under the berths; You just don't want to store anything that you need when you're underway, or anything you want to get to frequently. I would also avoid storing anything there that can't get wet (no electronics or clothing there on my boat!). If there are any leaks at all on the boat, the water will find its way into these spaces. --Jon Bastien H23 '2 Sheets to the Wind'
storage by types
Joel, We use the underberth storage extensively, and make use of rubbermaid rectangular tubs to help keep things orgainzied. But part of what we do is designate specific holds for types of items: food hold (dry storage/non-perisable) cooking and eating utinsels, cups, etc. hold, boat hold (misc. items like tools, spare pieces/nuts & bolts, etc.) gear hold (raingear/hats/extra sun block/hats etc.).... I also but a small hammock in the V-berth for the kids to keep put larger toys in. If you are going to get condensation, the holds seem the likely spot, but I've never noticed any problem with it. As for the lazerette, we ran a line from front to back to hang lifejackets up, but as pointed out before, its big and difficult to organize. So, truth be told, its a messy catch-all for large stuff. The primary thing is you've got a lot of storage capacity, if you give it some thought. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
Joel, We use the underberth storage extensively, and make use of rubbermaid rectangular tubs to help keep things orgainzied. But part of what we do is designate specific holds for types of items: food hold (dry storage/non-perisable) cooking and eating utinsels, cups, etc. hold, boat hold (misc. items like tools, spare pieces/nuts & bolts, etc.) gear hold (raingear/hats/extra sun block/hats etc.).... I also but a small hammock in the V-berth for the kids to keep put larger toys in. If you are going to get condensation, the holds seem the likely spot, but I've never noticed any problem with it. As for the lazerette, we ran a line from front to back to hang lifejackets up, but as pointed out before, its big and difficult to organize. So, truth be told, its a messy catch-all for large stuff. The primary thing is you've got a lot of storage capacity, if you give it some thought. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo
Thanks for the suggestions
Now I can go buy even more things for the boat. Rubbermaid containers, bungee cords, pole holders, hey maybe even a new jigsaw if I decide to open up the berth support to slide the containers in from the front!. I guess they were right when they said a boat is just a hole you pour money into.
Thanks again for your help.
Now I can go buy even more things for the boat. Rubbermaid containers, bungee cords, pole holders, hey maybe even a new jigsaw if I decide to open up the berth support to slide the containers in from the front!. I guess they were right when they said a boat is just a hole you pour money into.
Thanks again for your help.Lazarette
I use a large rubber mat in the lazarette to stop the Rubbermaid containers from sliding arround as the boat heels. s/v Miss Brandy
I use a large rubber mat in the lazarette to stop the Rubbermaid containers from sliding arround as the boat heels. s/v Miss Brandy
prop rod
On a related note.......I was tired of the lazarette lid dropping on my head so I installed a prop rod to hold it open...........I love the many storage spaces and have sorted so far as lines in one, rags in another, cleaning supplies in another, sail bags another, etc. The lazarette gets a mushroom anchor, cushions, fenders and life jackets........all jumbled up
On a related note.......I was tired of the lazarette lid dropping on my head so I installed a prop rod to hold it open...........I love the many storage spaces and have sorted so far as lines in one, rags in another, cleaning supplies in another, sail bags another, etc. The lazarette gets a mushroom anchor, cushions, fenders and life jackets........all jumbled up
clothes to port, larder to larboard
As you may have guessed, we store clothing, towels,and other linens in the port forward underberth space and dry foods, plates,dish detergent in the starboard forward locker. The port aft locker is the new location for the water jug and electric water pump (made my wife smile with that change). The starboard aft locker houses the two small (31 AH) gell cell batteries. The weight of the batteries in this location counters the weight of the water tank on the port side. Moving the batteries and water tank forward also inproved fore and aft ballance. I have no water in this space unless I park the trailer with the port side low, then I get water into the lazerette seat. Has anyone found a way to seal this seat/lazarette cover?
As you may have guessed, we store clothing, towels,and other linens in the port forward underberth space and dry foods, plates,dish detergent in the starboard forward locker. The port aft locker is the new location for the water jug and electric water pump (made my wife smile with that change). The starboard aft locker houses the two small (31 AH) gell cell batteries. The weight of the batteries in this location counters the weight of the water tank on the port side. Moving the batteries and water tank forward also inproved fore and aft ballance. I have no water in this space unless I park the trailer with the port side low, then I get water into the lazerette seat. Has anyone found a way to seal this seat/lazarette cover?
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