Cruise ship hit?
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Between Bermuda and NY.
Judging from where they put in to (Charleston, SC) for repairs, I would assume that they were not too far out of Bermuda.
Judging from where they put in to (Charleston, SC) for repairs, I would assume that they were not too far out of Bermuda.
News Story on Cruise Ship
Here is the news story http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61873-2005Apr18.html
Here is the news story http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61873-2005Apr18.html
Breaking?
I wonder if it was breaking when it hit. I also wonder if it wasn't, would a smaller boat ride/float up the wave as it came or would it have been all over for any boat other then a 1,000 footer. There had to have been other smaller boats on the water then (the storm would have made them go in, but I heard the 70 wave came after the storm died down). I wonder what happened to them.
I wonder if it was breaking when it hit. I also wonder if it wasn't, would a smaller boat ride/float up the wave as it came or would it have been all over for any boat other then a 1,000 footer. There had to have been other smaller boats on the water then (the storm would have made them go in, but I heard the 70 wave came after the storm died down). I wonder what happened to them.
Rogue waves not scarce
According to Coles 'Heavy Weather Sailing' 30th ed(?) Any boat will roll over with a breaking wave three or more times high as the beam of the boat. However, that is a broadside and breaking at or slightly before impact. Many accounts have been written of small boats riding over huge waves, much larger than their own length. It's all in the circumstances. Also to be noted 'rogue' waves are just that, they come from off the current wave direction and are generally triangular-trapezoidal in shape. Reports are they move fast, but if spotted far enough away boats have successfully sailed away or at least to the lesser edges. Last Spring(?) the Euro geosat was used to spot 'huge' waves. Although preior to that they were said by most scientists to be extremely rare the satellite showed a hundred or so in just a matter of weeks, more than a hundrefold more than the predicitions...point is that they are not nearly as uncommon as thought by the lubbers in the labs.
...at any rate that is my understanding of the thing.
According to Coles 'Heavy Weather Sailing' 30th ed(?) Any boat will roll over with a breaking wave three or more times high as the beam of the boat. However, that is a broadside and breaking at or slightly before impact. Many accounts have been written of small boats riding over huge waves, much larger than their own length. It's all in the circumstances. Also to be noted 'rogue' waves are just that, they come from off the current wave direction and are generally triangular-trapezoidal in shape. Reports are they move fast, but if spotted far enough away boats have successfully sailed away or at least to the lesser edges. Last Spring(?) the Euro geosat was used to spot 'huge' waves. Although preior to that they were said by most scientists to be extremely rare the satellite showed a hundred or so in just a matter of weeks, more than a hundrefold more than the predicitions...point is that they are not nearly as uncommon as thought by the lubbers in the labs.
...at any rate that is my understanding of the thing.It's not how far out that matters...
"rogue" waves (the formal definition is waves that are more than some factor, such as 2x, greater than the average wave height in a given sea state; in 3-foot swells an 8-footer would be a rogue) are produced by the combined energy of waves which have joined at least some of their energy upon colliding. This phenomenon apparently happens in every sea state, so the rogues are always out there. One occasionally hears stories of boaters close to a coast getting socked by a big swell that comes out of nowhere, probably a straightforward example of the process of wave energy combining. Interestingly, some new study suggested that waves which combine their energy upon colliding can separate out again along the vector they were originally travelling, like ghosts passing through each other...
"rogue" waves (the formal definition is waves that are more than some factor, such as 2x, greater than the average wave height in a given sea state; in 3-foot swells an 8-footer would be a rogue) are produced by the combined energy of waves which have joined at least some of their energy upon colliding. This phenomenon apparently happens in every sea state, so the rogues are always out there. One occasionally hears stories of boaters close to a coast getting socked by a big swell that comes out of nowhere, probably a straightforward example of the process of wave energy combining. Interestingly, some new study suggested that waves which combine their energy upon colliding can separate out again along the vector they were originally travelling, like ghosts passing through each other...
Direction
Are you saying that a rogue wave can come from a competely different direction then the current course of waves? My boss said he saw a show about these waves and they said they don't last very long. I guess that's why they don't think they happen much and you don't hear about them much.
Are you saying that a rogue wave can come from a competely different direction then the current course of waves? My boss said he saw a show about these waves and they said they don't last very long. I guess that's why they don't think they happen much and you don't hear about them much.
Pleasure boaters in area?
Does anyone have any reports of pleasure boaters in the area where the rogue wave hit?
Does anyone have any reports of pleasure boaters in the area where the rogue wave hit?
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