Crossing The Border Into British Columbia, CA

Dec 25, 2000
5,932
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Over the years our extended two-month plus cruises have tended to take us either west from Eagle Harbor on Cypress Island across Rosario Strait, through Pole Pass, across Haro Strait towards Poets Cove to clear Canada Customs at Bedwell, or depart from Cornet Bay through Deception Pass and up San Juan Channel. This year I took a more direct route north to Semi-ah-moo saving time with a plan to clear customs at White Rock. Bedwell can be busy in season, White Rock not so much.

Canada Customs used to have a hotline phone at the head of the dock where you cleared. Quite a hike, but they removed the phone and now it is clear by cell phone from the government dock.

Catching a flood from Eagle Harbor to Semi-ah-moo with a nice southerly for the 25 mile leg under sail all the way can be especially nice. Semi-ah-moo makes for an easy layover with a reciprocal dock and standard marina amenities, but a short distance north to White Rock.

The dock at White Rock has two sides behind the rock breakwater. The north side holds a small public marina with the government dock south side. This dock has room for two large sized boats; one on the water side and one on the land side. If the tide state is up both sides have enough water for most displacement hulls; albeit thin. And there is no room to turn around. Plan on coming in bow first and then backing out.

This summer when I approached the dock at a minus tide there was a large power boat hard aground on the land side and a sailboat with no skipper in sight on the water side. Customs cleared me after I explained my plight.

Some people apply for a NEXIS pass good for five years or an I-68 pass good for one year. We have neither, but tried the I-68 the first year they introduced it. We found it to be of no value in our cruising plans and have since declined renewing.

An important lesson that I have learned when talking to customs agents is full disclosure. Answer their question directly, period. Offer nothing more. They are quite good at detecting evasive answers, which can result in a stand down order while three agents and a dog arrive for a visit, including a face-to-face interview on the dock with an agent and a dog boarding your vessel in search of contraband. If they ask you how many beers on board, do not say a few, say six. Any liquor, I start with my open bottles...one small bottle of scotch, two small bottles of rum, etc. Make sure your papers are current and in order, too.

You have several choices from White Rock. Head west across Georgia Strait through Active Pass. Many very nice anchorages to choose from or over to one of three Ganges marinas. An alternative is to head north through Porlier Pass to Clam Bay. The next day can take you through Dodd Narrows to Nanaimo and points north. Or you can sail up the sunshine coast to Garden Bay, Secret Cove, Smuggler Cove and points north.

Once in BC waters you have just entered into one of the world's greatest water wonderlands; the Pacific Northwest. Bountiful sea life, incredible vistas, sheer mountain cliffs, serene seascapes, and friendly Canadians.
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
excellent report for clearing into canada on the mainland side of the straight:biggrin:
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
Technically, BC waters are NOT "Pacific Northwest" - they are Western Canada. "Pacific Northwest" in Canada would be Haida Gwai, Prince Rupert, etc. while the Gulf Islands, Vancouver Island, Sunshine Coast, etc. would be "Pacific SOUTHwest.

But good writeup on clearing Canadian Customs - I've never tried at White Rock. Can someone (you?) write up a similar one for clearing US Customs?

druid
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,932
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Thanks Centerline and Druid. Returning from Canada as a US citizen seeking clearance back into the US for us has been pretty routine. I have most recently cleared at Roche Harbor, but in previous years cleared at Point Roberts, Blaine and Friday Harbor. As long as you have a valid Passport, all they require you to do is purchase a Customs and Border Protection tab costing $26. I have had some temptation to decline the purchase of this tab, but have been unable to get a direct answer regarding the consequences. Can they deny me reentry if I decline the purchase? So, instead I fork out the money.

At Roche and other clearing facilities there is a Customs dock that must be your first point of contact upon entering US waters. Once docked there is a Customs shack where an agent will assist you. Most fresh uncooked foods must be discarded in bins next to the shack. Other than that they will ask about any major purchases that must be declared. We never have any.
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
As long as you have a valid Passport, all they require you to do is purchase a Customs and Border Protection tab costing $26. I have had some temptation to decline the purchase of this tab, but have been unable to get a direct answer regarding the consequences. Can they deny me reentry if I decline the purchase? So, instead I fork out the money.
if one wanted to go over to victoria for the weekend or overnight, is the purchase of the tab still a requirement for returning?.... or to ask another way, is short term entry requirements different than if one was spending several days/weeks, there?

we have been over around victoria and the oak bay area but did not land, nor did we check in anywhere. we motored along and returned to US waters on the same day.... it leaves me to wonder how may rules and regulations are we in violation of? ...in both countries:biggrin: but then one must understand that I am an outlaw at heart.
 
Dec 25, 2000
5,932
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
To the best of my knowledge, if you cleared into Canada, are returning to the US and do not have a current tab, you will be asked to purchase one that is good for one calendar year. I have been quite faithful on this matter.

I have watched customs and border patrol agents frequent the waters between the two countries and their boats are fast; typically rigid inflatables being pushed by four, two hundred and fifty horsepower outboards and a crew of three or four. To what degree they keep tabs on boats that wander back and forth across the boundary line on any given day, I have no answer. But, if they spot a US registered boat in Canadian waters and they determine it has not properly cleared or are suspect chances are it will be intercepted and possibly boarded for an explanation. Depending upon that explanation, the boat owner may be subject to a citation.

Technically, you must obtain clearance at one of their designated customs stations before landing. Once your in their system and establish a record, they will use that to validate future visits. If they detect a pattern of deception, which they seem quite good at, chances are they will make future validations more difficult. Their job is to protect our country.

Me being me I learned early on to shoot straight thus avoiding legal confrontation with the authorities. I want my crossings to be trouble free and thus far have succeeded. That was not so when I first began many years ago, which resulted in a face-to-face interview, papers review, and a vessel boarding search for contraband. I came up clean, but the process was uncomfortable all because I was vague on the phone with an agent about how many beers I had on board.

I'm boating for the pleasure of cruising, not to push the envelope over a technicality about obtaining clearance or not. You can be a cowboy on some matters, but on this one, not so much.
 
Jan 25, 2011
2,437
S2 11.0A Anacortes, WA
An I-68 only helps you coming back into the U.S.. If everyone aboard does not have Nexus, the I-68 works well. We've used it several times with granddaughter. If you clear Canadian customs even for "a minute", you have to have the U.S customs sticker indicating fee paid. Has pissed me off for decades as i feel i should not have to pay to come back home (another thread)..Nexus is great coming back into the U.S. If everyone aboard has one. Going into Canada, last summer, i made the mistake of stating (over the phone) where i was going and was going to drop the hook. Dont do that.. You have to go to a marina. Evidently, not any specific port of entry marina, but somewhere where they can find you if they want. But, still over the phone. You can sail in Canadian waters without checking in as long as you dont drop a hook or make landfall. Commercial fishermen do it all the time transiting from Seattle to AK.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
The "rule" is (at least it used to be) you can sail in foreign waters (ie US boat in CDN waters or vice versa) without clearing customs as long as you don't "touch land" (which includes a dock or the sea bottom with your anchor). So you can wander down Haro Strait and into CDN water as long as you don't dock or anchor. Now that there's Homeland Security, etc. I'm not sure this is still valid, so I'm not going to be wandering into US waters any time soon. (which makes docking at Crescent Beach or Ward Marina impossible since you have to go through US waters to get around Pt Roberts).

druid
 
Aug 20, 2010
1,399
Oday 27 Oak Orchard
Here is the scoop on reporting. When crossing into Canadian waters skippers are to report via telephone, radio, etc. US and Canadian citizens. Failing contact, report to nearest port to clear customs. Exception is free passage when leaving one port enroute to another. Voyages to and from the same port in the US require reporting to Canada. The US requires reporting when port of call is made in Canada, anchoring in Canadian waters or when having physical contact with a Canadian boat i.e. raft up. This situation has become a serious problem for individuals along the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence resulting in many US boats being impounded and requiring payment of a $1000 fine. US Senator Chuck Schumer and his Canadian counterpart in Parliament are working to address this issue but as of now it hasn't been resolved.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
Have a Fun Story about clearing US Customs: MANY years ago, you could clear US customs by phone. On a Victoria Day long weekend (which was NOT a long weekend in the US), hundreds of CDN boats did that on their way to the San Juans. BUT, US Customs and US Immigration were having a bitch-fight and Immigration said the phone clearance was for CUSTOMS, but not IMMIGRATION. US Immigration seized dozens of boats in Friday and Roche Hbrs. Then, within hours, two things happenned:
1. US Immigration got a BUNCH of phone calls from irate businessmen in Friday and Roche Hbrs since they usually made a LOT of money off the CDNs on Victoria Day Weekend, and
2. Turned out the usual owners of large boats in Canada were a) lawyers, b) politicians, or c) both. SO.... several phone calls later, the boats were returned and all was forgiven.

It does show that even if you THINK you're doing the right thing you may be wrong and have your boat seized. Unless of course you're a lawyer or politician...

druid
 
Aug 20, 2010
1,399
Oday 27 Oak Orchard
Here's an excerpt from the Lake Ontario Offshore Racing facebook page:

Lake Ontario Offshore Racing
July 12, 2015 ·


OPP have been contacted and asked to please check the Notice to Mariners which has been posted since the start of the race. Hopefully they will not stop any more boats.



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Joseph Bognar Next year get CPS to issue boat check stickers , RVCC . This might make it easier . Still not a guarantee to to be stopped but less likely , I would he happy to come ahead of time and issue some if needed

July 12, 2015 at 1:31pm

Lake Ontario Offshore Racing
Thanks Joe. I'll pass on your contact information to our RO.

July 12, 2015 at 2:16pm

Richard Rutsch Did they stop "oh Canada"?

July 12, 2015 at 2:52pm

Lake Ontario Offshore Racing
Yes, O Canada was stopped for a spot check.

July 12, 2015 at 5:09pm
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Such is the chaos around here.