CQR resets

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May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Got it again last night. Of course this never happens at an opportune time. About 2 in the AM, got a major wind shift, right at 180 blowing about 20 knots, and the CQR broke out. But the damn thing won't reset itself. This has happened to me once before, and I have come to a conclusion. I think the hinge is the problem. When it pulls out, the hinge has been swiveled all the way, so instead of being able to reset, it simply drags itself across the bottom with the flukes parallel to the way your pulling it. Does this make sense to anyone else. Whatever the reason, the CQR is going to find a new home, or another duty. Fortunately, I sleep light and am conscious of boat movement. Got real close to being hard aground last night, anchored up close to a little island. But having to get up in the middle of the night and pull anchor, move the boat and all that PITA, I don't want. I know all the hype about the Rocna,s and Mansons, but what think all of you. I have a friend, with a H36 who uses a Delta 22, which I would think is at least one size too small. But has never drug. The one other time my CQR has pulled out, he was anchored close by and didn't move. I'm thinking a 35# Delta, for far less bucks than a Rocna or Manson. What say this august group.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
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You do not purchase many anchors in a lifetime. Spend a few extra bucks and the right one the first time.

I have a Delta and it works well, but if I were to purchase a new anchor today it would probably be the Ronca.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
NNE:

You do not purchase many anchors in a lifetime. Spend a few extra bucks and the right one the first time.

I have a Delta and it works well, but if I were to purchase a new anchor today it would probably be the Ronca. WM price for a 33# is about $370
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,235
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
After using a 45# CQR for 13 years on my present boat and a 35# CQR on my previous 30' Morgan for another 12 years, I have had dragging and breakout issues JUST IN CERTAIN PLACES for the last couple of years.

I am concluding that the seabeds in these particular spots have changed in nature. More weeds, seabed becoming soft due to much anchoring in small areas, etc.

Regardless, I do not want the 2am anchor call either, and so this year I bought a 45# Manson Supreme to replace my CQR.

I really think the CQR is a very good anchor, and I have had it reset with 180 degree wind and current shifts in the past. But for just a few of the places I go, it no longer seems to work well.

Time will tell if there is an improvement.
 
Jan 22, 2008
280
Hunter 25_73-83 NORTH POINT MARINA/WINTHROP HA IL
Nice and Easy, you never mentioned the depth of the water, the bottom characteristics and whether you have all chain or chain and nylon rode. You also didn't mention how much scope you have set or how you set your anchor after deployed. These would be vital clues to understand why you are dragging. We have dragged with a CQR only once in 30 years and we had 70 knot winds over a loose gravel bottom with 10 to 1 scope set with 40 feet of 3/8" chain and 60 feet of 1/2" nylon rode. Analyze these considerations and you might find a cheaper solution than buying a new anchor. Good luck and good sailing, Ron
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Got it again last night. Of course this never happens at an opportune time. About 2 in the AM, got a major wind shift, right at 180 blowing about 20 knots, and the CQR broke out. But the damn thing won't reset itself. This has happened to me once before, and I have come to a conclusion. I think the hinge is the problem. When it pulls out, the hinge has been swiveled all the way, so instead of being able to reset, it simply drags itself across the bottom with the flukes parallel to the way your pulling it. Does this make sense to anyone else. Whatever the reason, the CQR is going to find a new home, or another duty. Fortunately, I sleep light and am conscious of boat movement. Got real close to being hard aground last night, anchored up close to a little island. But having to get up in the middle of the night and pull anchor, move the boat and all that PITA, I don't want. I know all the hype about the Rocna,s and Mansons, but what think all of you. I have a friend, with a H36 who uses a Delta 22, which I would think is at least one size too small. But has never drug. The one other time my CQR has pulled out, he was anchored close by and didn't move. I'm thinking a 35# Delta, for far less bucks than a Rocna or Manson. What say this august group.
You wouldn't be the first or the last to have had that happen with a CQR. That being said my vote would be for a Manson Supreme, then a Rocna then a Spade but the Spade's are pricey. While I do feel that the Delta is a better setting and re-setting anchor than the CQR I think a move to the new generation anchors would have you sleeping very well.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
I woudn't be without my CQR 45. In addition to all the things mentioned above that Rognvald picked up you didn't tell us, I didn' see how big your CQR was.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,362
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Oh, no, another anchoring thingie...

I had a Bruce, thought it was good, and then bought our Rocna and get pulled off the bow when it sets. And it resets.

Nice'n'Easy knows how to anchor, so his scope, bottom, size of anchor are immaterial here. He's simply asking about the type of anchors we like.

I agree with Maine Sail, why go halfway?

And remember that Maine Sail has done his own tests and homework.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
I know that my CQR35 is not the best anchor available. But I have never moved from where I anchored. Probably just luck I suppose. However I would dispute the results from Maine's CQR versus Rocna test. Never would I be backing down on the CQR where the shank was lying flat and dragging. As soon as the anchor hits bottom I am in reverse and the pointy end is at least trying to grab because the shank is pointing at the bow.
 
Apr 8, 2010
1,606
Frers 33 41426 Westport, CT
has anyone ever tried welding the hinge on a CQR to turn it into a delta? sure it would probably rust and eventually the welds may break as a result, but then you're right back where you started, with a CQR...
 

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
The CGR used to be the standard in anchoring. What was the best 30 years ago is not usually the best today. It is time to put the CQR in the museum as there are many better choices as numerous anchoring tests have shown. This from a guy whose main anchor is a CQR, and yes, I have had it drag a few times.
 
Oct 6, 2008
857
Hunter, Island Packet, Catalina, San Juan 26,38,22,23 Kettle Falls, Washington
We had a 45# CQR on our 38' IP with all chain and never broke loose in the Gulf or Keys in 2 1/2 years of full time anchor swinging. I always put down at least 7 to 1. I never wanted to be suprised after midnight and never was. A CQR is a good anchor if properly used.
Ray
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,660
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Never Again ................................

.................... would I use an anchor with any movable parts. Used a big Danforth for years and cursed that $#@^%* thing every time it broke loose at 03:00. :eek: Have heard the same story repeatedly from people using a CQR. Both have movable parts and can assume many configurations before deciding to set (or not).

A Danforth came with the boat when it was new and had such a pretty fit in the bow anchor holder, I left it there. :) I also kept one as a spare because it was so pretty and folded up so nicely for storage. :) Other than that, the Danforth is absolutely useless. :cussing:

I finally switched to a claw and have learned to hang on tight when setting the anchor. The Danforth never grabbed like that.

PS. I am still waiting for the claw to break out.
 
Jun 30, 2004
446
Hunter 340 St Andrews Bay
Dare I suggest a Bahamian moor? Set two anchors first and settle in the middle. When the wind shifts one or the other should still hold you.
 
Sep 30, 2008
195
Hunter 310 Bivalve, Md
I have a Bullwagga anchor on my new to me boat, haven't used it yet. Where would these rate in yous guys opinions? Must be a reason that they are no longer made.
 
May 9, 2006
56
Beneteau 373 Mystic, CT
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Glad you're still out there with the S37.

I had the remarkable experience of having my anchored boat pass by me as I sat on a friend's boat enjoying a sunset cocktail at Watch Hill, RI. A 180 shift and a 30kt squall, led my faithful fortress to pull and not reset as it skipped over kelp. Fortress offered a modification, but now I only trust it for it's remarkable direct holding. P.S. my runaway fouled another rode and had my line proprly cut by the fouled boat, ended up getting aboard and briefly aground on a falling tide, intertwined with the end of a 6 powerboat raft. Was able to haul off using 3 dinghies, had to replace one boat's rode, but managed to recover my fortress the next day and assigned it "back up" duty.

For my new boat I switched to a Spade. Continue to be very conscious of shifts, but have had no concerns. Once had to drop it in 40+ kts in very tight quarters on a totally dark night in Newport and was so pleased with the way it immediately dug into the old harbor mud and never moved over the next 6 hours of the gale. Am using all 5/16 chain.
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
No such thing as an anchor that always resets so you have to have the right anchor for the conditions and plan ahead to prevent the nocturnal activities that we all hate. If you think the wind is going to shift 180 with a front then factor that in when finding an anchorage. I think that my "luck" with various anchors had been because I try and chooes a nice tight secure anchorage where the wind can't "get me" after the front passes. My observation is that if there is not much strain on the rode the anchor will not have to reset.
FWIW
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,220
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I like my old Bruce. Seems to be fine in the muddy/sandy bottoms of this area.. Have had it reset many times during the 2 AM "fire drills" ..
 
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Jan 27, 2008
3,092
ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
My buddy swears by his navy anchor but I wouldn't use it for a lawn decoration. Mainsail has every anchor ever invented and uses them to anchor his car to hard packed dirt parking lots. Trust what he is telling you.
 
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