Counting my lucky stars!

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Jun 3, 2004
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Oday and Catalina O'Day 25 and Catalina 30 Milwaukee
I got a late start this year and am finally in the water. However, not after a significant problem that could have ended badly.

About a week ago, I finally had the boat ready to go so a good friend mine, my Dad and I got the boat setup with no problems. I was a little annoyed that the place that winterized the diesel motor apparently spilled some antifreeze in the engine compartment. I should have cleaned it up right away when I noticed it while the boat was still in the driveway, but I was rushing to get the boat in the water since it was now July 1st, and we had to have it ready for the 3rd of July fireworks at the lakefront. In any case, the bilge was essentially dry except for a small pool of antifreeze (or so I thought) pooled up under the engine.

We launched, got the motor started and given that it was getting pretty hot around 11:00 AM, decided to motor around the harbor. Not much wind but at least we had the motor. We motored for about half an hour, when the engine abruptly stopped. So we rolled out the jib and worked our way back to the mooring. We figured it was probably a clogged fuel filter created from sediment getting stirred up by trailering the boat or air in the line. By now it was mid-afternoon and so we got packed up and headed home since we had a previous engagement that day. My Dad and would come back the next day, drain some fuel out, replace the filter and work to get the engine working.

We got out to the boat the next day and I looked at the bilge, and it has a lot of red liquid in it. Now I realize that the liquid is not antifreeze, but diesel fuel. :eek: After some quick evaluation, we found the source of the leak, a leaky fuel hose that was steadily dripping all night long. We cut the hose, got the leak stopped and I worked for an hour to get the fuel mopped up. I bought a proper diesel container and found out that there was 2.5 gal. of diesel that had leaked into the bilge. We replaced the hose, bled the fuel lines and after some work got the engine started again. While I know that diesel has a lower flashpoint than gasoline, there are way too many ways that this could have gone very badly. I still shudder to think what could have happened.

Needless to say, I've learned quite a few things in the last several days. First, don't assume the liquid in the bottom of your engine compartment is antifreeze from the previous season. That's one of two things it could have been, and I didn't even consider the alternative. I would have known this was diesel had I just cleaned it up while the boat was sitting in my driveway. Second, although the mechanic who did the engine last fall indicated the motor was in great shape, I should have had him check all the hoses. This is my second year with the boat and while the motor has very few hours on it (225 total), it is still old. As it turned out, the fuel lines were original equipment (1983 boat). I'm now in the process of doing that more thoroughly now that it's in the water. Finally, it's great to have a father who is a retired engineer. He helped me interpret the schematics in the Yanmar manual (which is pretty good I must say), make the repairs and get the engine going again.

Whether it's my lucky stars, a guardian angel or just dumb luck this turned out about as good as it could have given the circumstances. I'm a very lucky person on a lot of fronts.

Dave
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O'Day 25
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
I think that this year was undoubtedly the worse year I've ever had for boating. My outboard wasn't pumping water and the engine over heated and caused some damage. The day I launch my boat wasn't what I'd call an ideal day for being on the water. The wind was excessive and puffy, and the waters were a bit rough. I never noticed the problem until it was too late.

There aren't many mechanics in my area who work on Johnson outboards and against my better judgment I took it to the dealer whom I had bought that outboard new, originally. He got me for almost $400 and the engine came back running worse than when I brought it to him.

I have an expert mechanic working on it right now and I hope to get it back next week. He needs to pull the power head off to replace a 75 cent bushing at the end of the water intake pipe. Big bucks, but I like that engine and I want to keep on using it.

Right now the boat is at my house all ready to go back to the club as soon as I get my engine back.
I went to the club today and just hung out under the trees next the picnic tables and sprawled out on a chaise lounge and fell asleep. Penny went in the water and cooled off and fell asleep under the trees.
Hopefully my luck will change but right now it really stinks.
Joe
 
Jun 3, 2004
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Oday and Catalina O'Day 25 and Catalina 30 Milwaukee
Hi Joe -

Let's hope for a good second half of the season.

Dave
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O'Day 25
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Oday 25 Gibraltar
Not my best season either. No boat problems but way too busy and too hot weather (for us).
 

Ashton

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Jun 26, 2009
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Oday 26 Leesburg
Should there be red diesel fuel in the tank? Red diesel is for off road engines.
Why would there be orange or red antifreeze and not green?
On That old and engine you wouldn't need the new antifreeze.
Going to be hard to get the smell out.

Trinkka,
That gasket shouldn't be a big deal unless the bolts break off in powerhead.
The rubber in the gasket breaks down and covers the hole in the powerhead.
Have him check the exhaust pipe too. The pipe can clog with carbon. Mine was down to
a dime size hole and should be over a quarter size. Engine power was doubled after I
cleaned it out.
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Should there be red diesel fuel in the tank? Red diesel is for off road engines.
Why would there be orange or red antifreeze and not green?
On That old and engine you wouldn't need the new antifreeze.
Going to be hard to get the smell out.

Trinkka,
That gasket shouldn't be a big deal unless the bolts break off in power head.
The rubber in the gasket breaks down and covers the hole in the power head.
Have him check the exhaust pipe too. The pipe can clog with carbon. Mine was down to
a dime size hole and should be over a quarter size. Engine power was doubled after I
cleaned it out.
All great tips Ashton. Thank you so much. This guy has a good reputation for being a great marine engine mechanic. I wish I'd have known about his sooner. He had mentioned to me that the water intake pipe going to the power head could be perforated as well. He replaced the head gasket and did find a lot of carbon build up in the exhaust. Hopefully I'll get a call from him either tomorrow or Tuesday saying that it's done and ready to be picked up.

If I'd have known that my boat was going to be sitting in my yard for this length of time, I'd have put the mast and boom up, rigged a boom tarp and hung out on my boat every day. I can see the lake across the street from my house, so it's almost like being out on the water. :)
 
Jun 3, 2004
269
Oday and Catalina O'Day 25 and Catalina 30 Milwaukee
Not sure why the diesel is red. I filled up at the marina last fall. I've gotten a lot of the smell out and was planning on using febreze on the cushions. Other ideas would be appreciated.

Dave
 

Gaf

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Dec 31, 2006
78
-O'Day 23' Kilmarnock
Just as an observation, why would you be running green diesel (on road) in your boat, and not red? It is an off road vehicle, isn't it there for legal, and cheaper? I realize not by much, but...
 
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