Costly/Serious Damage or Just Cosmetic?

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Dec 9, 2008
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Spencer 35 Chesapeake, VA
So I missed a bulge in the deck above the aft part of the keel before I bought my 1981 C27, thankfully the surveyor brought it up and now I'm wondering. It LOOKS like the stands weren't tight enough while my boat was on the hard for 1-2 years before it became mine. From the looks of it the rear of the keel was supporing too much weight, and has made a visibly pronounced bulge at where the steps hit the deck in the companion way. Anybody else familiar with the issue? Other than the bulge there doesn't seem to be any "problem" associated with the storage error; no cracking or anything like that. Is this someting I need to worry about, or is it harmless? Moreover, is there a chance the keel might "drop" back into place with enough time in the water?
 

BobM

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Jun 10, 2004
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S2 9.2A Winthrop, MA
I wouldn't count on it. I looked at a boat with a similar issue (big shallow dent aft of the keel). My surveyor, a sailor, said it more likely indicated a nasty grounding. It also, in his opinion, indicated a lack of good structural integrity in the hull aft of the keel. It isn't clear...do you own this boat or are you still looking at it? If the later, there are plenty of C27's out there to look at. If you own it, I'd suggest making sure that you are sure there is no structural damage. In any case, I am sure that there are plenty of C27 owners out there who can tell you more.
 

jimg

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Jun 5, 2004
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catalina 27 dana point
The keel was apparently supporting the weight of the boat, and perhaps there was a grounding. Now the boat is supporting the weight of the keel. Will it go back into shape? I don't really know, but I have a C27, and if it was my boat I would just sail it and not worry. See what it looks like at the end of your season. Where I am boats stay in the water all the time. I would just watch it for a couple of years. It's not going to fall off. Watch the bilge, and unless you see major water ingress, odds are that there is no serious problem.
 
Jul 20, 2005
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Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
The keel is supposed to support all the weight. The stands just stablizies it so it doesn't fall over. The hull to keel joint is supposed to be strong enough for that.

I know boats that were hard aground for many hours being picked up and dropped by the waves without any damage like that so I don't think it was a grounding and if so, I still point to a weak hull.

Will the keel fall off....don't think so in mild conditions as you'd be surprised what kind of flexibility fiberglass has and how much flexing it can take but don't take that boat out in rough conditions and keep and eye on the area while you sail.
 
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Hull Flexing

If it were my boat, I would sail it and not worry too much. While the boats are designed to sit with weight on the keel, if the boat was positioned unevenly on the keel, you could load that area heavier than it should be. This coupled with the boat sitting on the keel for 1-2 yrs. (or more), the hull could take a set and create such a depression. IF you have serious damage, there should be some cracks somewhere and absent these you should be ok. After it is in the water for an extended period, the hull may eventually retake its old shape, but even if it doesn't, the boat will serve you well in any case. If it is serious damage, it will get progressively worst, so just keep an eye on it. If you are crossing oceans where you might be in survival conditions, you might have a concern, but I assume you are not going to do this, and in normal sailing, you should be fine. I helped transport a new 23 ft. trailer sailer from RI to NC on its factory supplied trailer and we experienced some hull deformation at the ends of the trailer support pads in the course of that single trip. I know the history of that boat for about 10 yrs. and there was never a problem. After pulling my previous boat for a bottom job, the marine yard owner, who had been in business for years, commented that my particular boat did not flex its hull when lowered onto the keel and stands like most boats did. So flexing is not unusual and if you put almost anything in a bend long enough, and it will take a permanent set. Also, normal instructions for aligning engine and shaft are that it should be done after boats have been back in the water for several weeks since the distribution of forces on the boat is different than on the hard and the hull flexes to match this distribution. Go sailing and enjoy the boat.
 
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