Conversion to AGM

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John R

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Oct 9, 2012
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Catalina 36 Emeryville
Several years ago, I went from lead acid batteries to AGM's. Since then I've read that if you make this conversion you have to change the charging systems - both the alternator and the charger/inverter. Would those who are knowledgable on this please explain, including what exactly I have to change. Thanks.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Not true. I have a stock alternator and three stage charger and AGM batteries going on 15 years now. battery life averages 6 years.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Charger

What charger do you have and read your charger manual or tell us what charger you have so you can get help here and AGM's do charge different than wet cells.
Tell us how you charge at dock or mooring.
Nick
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Several years ago, I went from lead acid batteries to AGM's. Since then I've read that if you make this conversion you have to change the charging systems - both the alternator and the charger/inverter. Would those who are knowledgable on this please explain, including what exactly I have to change. Thanks.
If you have an I/C or inverter charger it should be fine an may just need you to program if for the manufacturers suggested absorption and float voltages. If it has the option for temperature compensation AGM's can certainly benefit from this.

If you actually want to take advantage of AGM's benefit of higher acceptance rates, eg: faster charging, then the stock alternator simply won't cut it and is woefully under-qualified..

Also some stock alternators have no internal temp compensation and many an alternator has been cooked by AGM's demanding full output for hours on end. A heavy duty alternator, specifically designed for long term high output use, will compliment your AGM's but is not always "necessary".

To my way of thinking spending the huge dough on banks that are arguably shorter lived than flooded deep cycle and then not taking advantage of their benefits, such as fast re-charge times, is an odd way, finances wise, to buy batteries. Perhaps you bought them and they are mounted on their sides and in this case they are worth it.

Lifeline wants to see an alternator of no less than 20% of the banks capacity at the 20 hour rate. Enersys/Odyssey/Die Hard Marine AGM's want to see an alt with a minimum output of 40% of capacity. These are minimum suggestions to get the best life...
 

John R

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Oct 9, 2012
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Catalina 36 Emeryville
I'll go and check which inverter/charger I have, but as I recall it has a setting for AGM's. Since I haven't cooked my alternator yet, I guess that's okay. (I had thought that the wrong alternator could damage the AGM's, not damage the alternator.)
 
Jan 6, 2010
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John,

Ross, Sea & Main hit it right on the head pal.

I started using AGM batteries about 5 years ago.
The reasons I did were:
1. they didn't have the charging problems Gel batteries did.
2. They charged quickly without charger problems.
3. THEY WOULD NOT LOSE THAN 3 VOLTS A MONTH (my selling point).
and,
4. they were only a problem if they were upside down,
However, if your batteries are upside down in your boat,

YOU HAVE MORE PRESSING PROBLEMS AT THE MOMENT.

The new "hot" batteries just coming out recently in different sizes are the DryCell batteries.

Don't know if they have group 27's (or bigger in a deep cell) yet, but they claim to re-charge easily & hold the charge up to 7 1/2 years.

I also still believe in the Easter Bunny.

Only time itself will be proof...........

CR
 
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