I have a 20 year old CNG tank that I am assuming has to be either replaced or recertified. Does anyone know how to go about this AND where to get them refilled in Ontario, Canada.
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You might be better served, at this point in time, converting to propane. Propane is much more popular and easier to obtain. CNG is really hard to come by and I know of some people that converted their stoves (Don't think that it was a big deal). Worth a try to get an easier source of fuel.
CNG Tanks
are not like propane tanks and generally get replaced, rather than refilled. For locations near you, check out www.safgas.com
Also see: http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=CNG_Refill_Adapter
You do NOT need to switch propane unless YOU want to.
are not like propane tanks and generally get replaced, rather than refilled. For locations near you, check out www.safgas.com
Also see: http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=CNG_Refill_Adapter
You do NOT need to switch propane unless YOU want to.
Hy neighbour, we're at BayMoorings.
One forum member was successful at Enbridge Mississauga
or CNG vehicle fill locations Enbridge Gas Distribution
or try this from the GBHSA website
Didn't see your name on the GBHSA site, but did on the recent e-mail on the LED lights
What's the name of your boat,
See you when the snow melts.
One forum member was successful at Enbridge Mississauga
or CNG vehicle fill locations Enbridge Gas Distribution
or try this from the GBHSA website
Didn't see your name on the GBHSA site, but did on the recent e-mail on the LED lights
What's the name of your boat,
See you when the snow melts.
When you get a tank refilled they just exchange your "old" tank for a "new" one. Over on the west coast we get ours from a local marina repair shop. The cost is $18.
I would never think about changing over my system from CNG to propane for the cost and the hassel of doing it. I probably use 2 tanks a year and we have a spare tank that we share with another harbor mate, so we always have fuel around.
I would never think about changing over my system from CNG to propane for the cost and the hassel of doing it. I probably use 2 tanks a year and we have a spare tank that we share with another harbor mate, so we always have fuel around.
I would not consider converting since cng is safer. It is lighter than air and will not collect in the bilge and low areas like propane (heavier than air) will. Here is a site to get you started. Looks like lots of stations in Toronto area.
http://www.cngprices.com/
Each tank in the Seattle area costs about $20 and lasts for about 20 hours. We have one connected to the system and one in reserve. When the system tank runs out we exchange as soon as possible.
http://www.cngprices.com/
Each tank in the Seattle area costs about $20 and lasts for about 20 hours. We have one connected to the system and one in reserve. When the system tank runs out we exchange as soon as possible.
We also have a backup tank onboard
like Steve and Tom. Steve has it easy - they have CNG right at his marina! I have to drive all of two blocks to get mine exchanged. Steve's marina gets their tanks from my chandlery! Each of our tanks last anywhere from six months to a year depending on use. I keep track of when it's been replaced with post0its on the tanks, and the regulator has a pressure gauge also. The gauge is straight-line - zero means zero anywhere from 2300 # to 2700 # is full.
like Steve and Tom. Steve has it easy - they have CNG right at his marina! I have to drive all of two blocks to get mine exchanged. Steve's marina gets their tanks from my chandlery! Each of our tanks last anywhere from six months to a year depending on use. I keep track of when it's been replaced with post0its on the tanks, and the regulator has a pressure gauge also. The gauge is straight-line - zero means zero anywhere from 2300 # to 2700 # is full.
About $1.78 to fill up a 20 hour bottle
I used to exchange my CNG bottles but now I just refill them from the public gas station. It cost me more to drive there than to fill the tanks but since I only do it twice a season it is not that big a deal.
it is certainly safer. Had the friends kids over for a sail and they where "playing" down in the cabin. I came down a week later and secured the boat for a big blow that was coming and turned on the gas to make some coffee. As I was using "Daddy's little helper" in the coffee I decided to not drive home and fell asleep on the boat. I had been smoking on and off all night. When I woke up I heard a gas sound and located it at the burner I had not used earlier. I was smoking at that time. The gas had been on for something like 5 hours and I a) did not smell it nor b) blow myself up with matches and smoking.
I used to exchange my CNG bottles but now I just refill them from the public gas station. It cost me more to drive there than to fill the tanks but since I only do it twice a season it is not that big a deal.
it is certainly safer. Had the friends kids over for a sail and they where "playing" down in the cabin. I came down a week later and secured the boat for a big blow that was coming and turned on the gas to make some coffee. As I was using "Daddy's little helper" in the coffee I decided to not drive home and fell asleep on the boat. I had been smoking on and off all night. When I woke up I heard a gas sound and located it at the burner I had not used earlier. I was smoking at that time. The gas had been on for something like 5 hours and I a) did not smell it nor b) blow myself up with matches and smoking.
Re: About $1.78 to fill up a 20 hour bottle
Bill, I am surprised that your burners don't have thermocouple safety valves. If the wind blows out a simmering burner on my Force Ten the thermocouple shuts the gas off. I have to hold the knob in for a few seconds when I light the burners but after that they protect me from the gas if they go out.
Bill, I am surprised that your burners don't have thermocouple safety valves. If the wind blows out a simmering burner on my Force Ten the thermocouple shuts the gas off. I have to hold the knob in for a few seconds when I light the burners but after that they protect me from the gas if they go out.
That is a propane thing
CNG stoves don't have those (cause they don't need them). I just turn my burner on and gas comes out. This is why converting to propane is not just a "replace the jets" thing. Yes you can get an operating propane stove that way by it is not what I'd call forgiving of error.
CNG stoves don't have those (cause they don't need them). I just turn my burner on and gas comes out. This is why converting to propane is not just a "replace the jets" thing. Yes you can get an operating propane stove that way by it is not what I'd call forgiving of error.
Although CNG is considered safer than Propane do not miss the fact that in high concentrations and in enclosed spaces CNG is also explosive. CNG is lighter than air and will rise and disipate but if it cannot find a way out quickly enough its concentration will build up increasing the risk of explosion. Both systems have their pros and cons and at present my recommendation would be to remain with what you got as the cost of a conversion is not warranted.
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