Compass Question

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Jun 3, 2004
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Pearson 323 Staten Island
I have a ritchie compass mounted on top of the Edson Wheel pedestal. THe previous owner installed it backwards. I removed screws to turn it around and lost some of the fluid. Now my compass is facing the right way, but has a huge bubble. How do I fix it?
 
Mar 13, 2004
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Hunter 356 Port Huron, MI
Add liquid...

Get the manual of the particular compass (see link) There is a plug located somewhere on the bottom. Pull the plug, add liquid (used to be mineral oil, but I see that they now use Isopar L) until it replaces the bubble, and then put the plug back in. It's that simple. Steve
 
Jun 7, 2007
875
Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
Never Use Mineral Oil !!!!

They use odorless mineral spirits!!!! A very big difference. I just replaced my dome a couple of months ago and bought odorless mineral spirits at Lowe's.. The Isopar is hard to find but you can order it from Ritchie. So far so good. I got a small bubble when I left the compass out in the garage on a very cold night. I just added a little more fluid and now after two months or so on the boat no bubbles.
 
Jan 27, 2007
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Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
mineral oil vs mineral spirits

Mineral oil is for power boats. The thicker viscosity stabilizes the rose while pounding at speed. Mineral spirits are for Sail Boats as they are more fluid in the water.
 
Nov 30, 2007
276
Hunter 36 Forked River, NJ
be careful

I can't claim to be an expert on the subject of compasses, but have picked up a few things from my recent experience with the Ritchie compass on my new-to-me boat. The PO did his own refilling of the compass before turning over the title to me. It looked good for a little while, but ultimately his effort failed. For one, a local compass repairman explained to me that it clouded because he refilled with a different fluid than the composition of the one originally in it. Also, the bubble in the dome grew over time until all fluid had leaked out. This happens as a result of the differences in heat of expansion between the liquid and the air in the closed container. I suppose the job can be done more cheaply by yourself, but I paid him $65 to completely clean it, replace the bladder, re-seal, and refill the dome with the right stuff in a vacuum tank (which minimizes the likelihood of air bubbles). You could also send the compass back to Ritchie for complete reconditioning for around $120 if you prefer. The Ritchie Navigation website has a list of local service agents. To me, it was more than worth it to properly repair the PO's mistakes, and do it right.
 
Jun 7, 2007
875
Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
Go To The Source!!!!

There is a lot of bad information on the internet. It is safest to go to the source. http://ritchienavigation.com/service/faq.html I think that most of the bad information comes from people with good intentions but all information from unknown sources needs to be carefully evaluated and independently confirmed. A compass is relatively simple but simple mistakes can cause problems. I repaired my own compass because I didn't want the hassel of shipping it off to be repaired and worry about it getting damaged in shipment. IMHO if you live near a compass repair shop and don't mind spending th emoney take it to a repair shop. BUT if you are reasonablly handy with tools and gaskets you can do it yourself. The people at Ritchie were very helpfull and quickly sent me my new globe. I did have to put the thing together a couple of times to get it right. I enjoy doing things myself when practical. Makes life more interesting.
 
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Ersin

Fill it up with Johnson&Johnson babyoil..

..like I did 3 years ago. Still OK.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,759
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
And..

And it's probably a good thing you don't get a lot of fog in Turkey.. Hell you could put Penzoil in it and it would most likely still spin, but, for how long and how accurately?? Why not just fill it with KY and call it a day...??;D While baby oil is just mineral oil, and a fragrance, I'm going to guess that your compass at least smells good..;D Some of the old Danforth Constellation series compasses were filled with pure mineral oil minus the fragrance but Ritchie compasses have been using odorless mineral spirits since at least 1960! In case some missed it: From 1960-2001, ALL Ritchie compasses were filled with odorless mineral spirits! Not mineral oil!!!!! Ritchie now uses a fluid called Isopar L® which is basically very highly refined and purified mineral spirits made by Exxon-Mobil corp.. It is supposedly virtually identical in properties but claims some added benefits over odorless mineral spirits. They don't actually say what "added benefits" so I'm guessing it's just more margin for Ritchie & Exxon. Odorless mineral spirits and Isopar L can be mixed and used together. Mineral oil, and or, J&J Baby Oil and mineral spirits should not be used together. If you own a Ritchie compass DO NOT use mineral oil..
 
Oct 10, 2006
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Oday 222 Mt. Pleasant, SC
Did some research

And found the same thing, Maine Sail. I just pulled the compass out of my boat yesterday because it's all fogged up and was looking into replacing the fluid if possible. I decided to just go ahead and replace with a new one instead. Everything I read had mineral spirits for compasses, especially for sailboats. Some powerboat compasses may have the mineral oil.
 
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