Coleman stove in sailboat?????

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ken

Propane stove

Have used a propane Coleman stove on my boat for 5 years and never had a problem. Generally I try to cook in the cockpit... but when the weather is nasty I cook in the cabin no problem.I stow my propane in vented pvc cylinders which I bungee cord to the bottom of my mast. Common sense is the key. Good luck!!
 
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T Hoppin

a minority viewpoint - CNG!

Been there . . . done that . . . argued pro's and con's . . . have used pressure and non-pressure alcohol, propane, etc. . . . what I had NOT experienced was CNG . . . and for a variety of reasons (mainly safety) I finally went with CNG and I am a very happy camper with it. I am told that in the past 40 years, there has not been one reported explosion caused by CNG on small boats. CNG received a bad "rap" way back when bottled gases were first being introduced to small boats. The propane vs CNG war was fierce and a lot of money was spent in the sales, insurance, and regulatory arenas. The propane lobby was very active, and, frankly, won the day by proposing that CNG was "just as dangerous" as propane. Well, it is just plain not true. A CNG system does NOT require an airtight box with an above water escape drain - CNG gas floats up, not down. The tank regulator puts out pressure at about 1/4 lbs per sq. inch (yes, please read one quarter of one pound) and this low pressure eliminates the need for a high pressure hose or double clamping on the hose that is used. In fact, some installations are made on boats with the tank set into a space inside the main cabin and it is accepted by insurers. So - what's the reason it is not "as popular" ? - well, the distribution availability on the coasts is somewhat sparse (for example in distribuitorlists 9 places in MASS, 3 in CONN., 4 in New York, 10 in Maryland, etc.) so, I researched and found that filled tanks can be shipped by FedEx - and I bought two tanks and keep the spare on board . . . . the stove operates the same way as a propane stove does - virtually the same btu output . . . almost all propane stoves offer conversion kits to convert from propane to CNG (and that can be reversed if you don't like it) . . . the tanks hold about the same amount of heating capacity as a propane system tank. Plenty of heating capacity while the spare is being sent by FedEx to refill. Extended travel in the Caribbean and transoceanic voyages would run into a supply problem - so that is a clear argument against CNG for some. Shorter trips - say two or three months or less - would be fine. The marine CNG system is a bit more expensive at the outset - but an exploded boat and/or airtight box and overboard discharge drain and electric solenoid safety switches and wear and tear in the worry department are not acceptable compared to the extra bucks as I see it. I am NOT connected in any way with a distributor - these comments come from my experience and research. When I have shown my installation to others, folks tell me they are positively surprised and wished they had looked at this option more carefully before going propane.
 
B

Benny

The problem with CNG is

cost and availability. It is very hard to find in the US and almost impossible overseas.
 
B

Benny

Consider Butane.

For cooking small meals on day sails and short trips a one burner butane canister stove is very convenient. We use propane on the large boats but for our trailerable we have a Kenyon butane stove which has worked very well over many seasons. We do disengage the canister after every use.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
CNG is great

And the avalability is getting better. Lots of cities are converting to CNG buses and you can find a refill station if you look in the right places. Costs me 2.45 to refill my tank. I think it is a 3 cf type.
 
Mar 21, 2005
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- - Glenndale Lake
Thanks for all the information everyone!

Thanks to all who replied to my question. I have decided to go with a Coleman PROPANE stove.I have used this stove for several years. The liquid fuel Coleman stoves seem to be more problems than the propane. I will build a PVC pipe "locker" to store the cylinders. It will be mounted to the stern rail with a bottom vent hose overboard. The cylinder will only be attached to the stove when in use. It will be returned to the locker when not in use. That should minimize any risk of leaks and explosions. Everything has some level of risk....I just want to minimize them. Thanks to ALL. Boatlubber2
 

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Jun 3, 2004
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Hunter 1980 - 33 Bradenton
occasional use propane cylinders

I also use a propane camp stove on the boat. The propane cylinders are stored in a plastic box in the dock locker most of the time. When on the boat the cylinders are stored, in the plastic box, in the front anchor locker which has a bottom drain/vent. This temporary on board storage works well without adding rail storage containers.
 
Oct 3, 2005
159
Catalina 387 Hampton, VA
Magma bag - myo

My wife made a magma propane knockoff bag. It rides on the safety line and holds 3 1# tanks plus 2 butane tanks. Sunbrella fabric holds up to the outdoors and no problem with leaks!
 
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