Thank you all again. Here is how I did it. On my 1977 Catalina 30 underneath the seat at the helm (against the transom) there is a fiberglass shelf; if thats what you want to call it. I guess some people store stuff there, but I think it woould have been a better design to leave if off. This way a person could access the cockpit drains, the bilge, and the steering. So I took a roto zip saw and cut big holes in this shelf. That way I could access the drains. When I opened it up I found thys drain holes glassed directly to the boat. Part of the problem was the metal fittings were rusting away where you put the rubber hoses on the end of the pipe fittings. The other problem was just as I imagined. Reeds, wood splinters, dirt, and charcoal, yes charcoal,(the PO stored the charcoal in this compartment) were all the culprit. I replaced the hoses and used double stainless steel c clamps. PROBLEM SOLVED. Sorry I didn't take a picture. I was hurrying before this storm hit Pensacola. Thanks, Tony