Coastie cruising

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Dan

In a canoe, no less

Was heading out in a canoe over in central CA years ago, fully loaded 17' with decoys, gun, food, etc. for a day of hunting in some near by slues. At 5:00 am a coastie came along side and demanded to know why i didn't have registration numbers on my boat. I told him a 17' w/o motor does not need papers. He insisted, all the while I'm recoiling from his wake. After two demands, I heard someone below say 'he doesn't need papers'. What a jerk. After being in the Navy, I know there are 'rule' guys and others. This guy was just power hungry.
 
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Bill

Boarded after escort

We were moving our Catalina 27 up the coast from Ocean City NJ to Barnegat Bay last year. Just as if someone turned on a switch, we were caught in a blanket of fog. We were about 5 miles from the entrance to Little Egg Inlet so we continued on following our GPS heading to the Bouy marking the entrance to Little Egg Inlet. After hitting our mark, we found that the Bouy was not where the chart had it located. After looking at our position on our chart I made the decision to drop anchor and wait out the fog. We had been monitoring CH 16 and heard another vessel also lost in the fog. By sounding our fog singnals, we were able to establish visual contact with the other vessel (he also had us on Radar and talked us into his position) I made a call to the Atlantic City Coast Guard Group to inform them of our situation and that we had visual contact with the other vessel and that we would be dropping anchor and waiting for the fog to clear. (I figured there was safety in numbers, as we had another vessel in sight, for assistance should either of us need it). The Coast Guard maintained radio contact with us every 1/2 hour checking that all was well, our anchor was not dragging and that we and the other vessel were still in sight of one another. As the fog started to lift, we informeg them that we would be weighing anchor and entering Barnegat Bay through the Little Egg Inlet. The Coast Guard asked if we would like an escort in to the bay, as the channel markers had been recently repositioned and they would not show up on our chart. We took them up on their offer. They made it a point to maintain a speed that our Catalina 27 could keep up with. After we entered the ICW, they asked if they could board us to get some information. They came along side,boarded us, checked all ships papers, did a inspection and gave us a clean bill of health. As this was not where we intended to come into Barnegat Bay, ( We were planning to come in at Barnegat Inlet)They informed us that there was some shoaling in the ICW but we should be able to make it with our 4'draft. They sent us on our way, but requested that we check in with Coast Guard Station Barnegat Light upon arriving at our marina. It took us about seven additional hours to make it to our destination, and upon arrival called and informed them of our arrival, and to thank them for their assistance. The Coast Guard was professional, and made us feel secure, knowing someone had our GPS coordinated should something have happened.( By the way, in the open Ocean, we always wear harnesses and inflatable PFD's)
 
May 8, 2005
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Macgregor 21 Turner, Oregon
My Coasties

I grew up in a Coast Guard family, so my experience may be clouded. However, here it is. When I was a kid playing in boats, I used to get boarded every couple weeks. It got to the point where I would see them walking down the dock to me; all I had to do was hold up my life jackets, flares, horn and fire extinguisher, and they would turn around and walk off. They never even made it to the boat! More recently (last summer), I was salmon fishing off the Oregon Coast when the head gasket blew on my 19' boat. This was pre-sailboat, mind you. Anyway, I called the Coast Guard, and they put out a request for marine assistance on the radio. It's standard procedure for them to call for a commercial tow first if the vessel is not in imminent danger. Fortunately for me, there are no commercial towers in my area, so they diverted a 47' MLB on patrol to my location and towed my back in. They towed me a little fast and I shipped some water in through my outboard well, but I told them to slow down and all was well. The rest of the trip went without incident. Back at the dock, I was given a quick inspection and asked all the normal questions. All in all, it was a pleasant experience, save having my motor break. Yesterday I went Halibut fishing on a Charter Boat 37 miles out on the Oregon Coast. There were about 100 boats in the immediate vicinity Halibut fishing, and the Coast Guard sent out a 47' MLB to patrol and standby during the event. We watched them all day, from early morning until the afternoon. They weren't there to harass or intimidate boaters, they were just there to help. No boardings, no inspections, just standing by until someone needed them. They even had two 5 gallon gas cans on the back deck if someone ran out of fuel! As a note, I've heard from numerous people that the coasties "don't know the rules themselves" in regards to registration and such. While it is not excusable to not know the rules when you are charged with enforcing them, it might help to understand how the Coast Guard works. Many of these folks get transferred from one state to another, from shore duty to sea duty and back again. The relevance of all this is that regulations vary from state to state, especially in regards to registration requirements. While one state may require registration for any sailboat over a certain length, another may only require registration for a powered vessel, and another may require registration for all boats no matter what. It is very likely that the ones who "don't know the rules" recently transferred from a different state where the rules were different. The Coast Guard has a difficult job, and it has only been more difficult since 9/11. These brave folks don't get paid much, and are charged with being anything and everything on the water, from cop to firefighter to EMT, and most of them do it well.
 
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WELL SAID For all the complaining some folks like to do, most of them deserve the actions they complain about. The USCG folks are all volunteers, get paid little, risk their lives and are an exemplary form of public service and generally deserve our thanks.
 
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Bruce Bates

Coast Guard Good ,StateMarine patrol bad bad

Here in New Hampshire the Coast Guard is always professional,alert and helpful. The same cannot be said however for our State Marine Patrol who funded and armed by the Dept of Homeland Security are officious,interfering, wasteful,annoying incompetants.( and thats the good things I say about them)
 
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Gary

Coastie (RET)

It's nice to see alot of nice readings about the Coast Guard. I know there are those who have had bad experiences also. I know fist hand just how lucky alot of people are that we were around when they needed us. I have kept a log of all the events I took part in over the 25 years I served. I think I should try and publish a book, I bet alot of people would recognize themselves.
 
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ex-admin

Final results

Final results for the Quick Quiz ending May 15, 2005: What's been your experience with the Coast Guard: 60% They've not assisted nor boarded me 16% I needed help but I didn't get it from them 14% I've been boarded, but not assisted 10% They assisted me with an emergency afloat
 
Jun 7, 2004
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Beneteau 343 South Padre Island, TX
On the border in Texas

Being on an international border, where nefarious drug operators were busy long before 9-11, our coasties are pretty busy. Yet we often see them patrolling and regularly hear them on channel 16 managing distress situations. They have always been courteous and even cheerful with us. And it is a comfort knowing they are out there. Yes, they are mostly very young men and women, which means they are also maturing as they go, but they have seemed to me fine people, who deserve some courtesy back from all of us.
 
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Louis N. Lemieux

USCG and Training School

It was one dark night coming down the Jersey coast, the wind was up and tide was against us. The Tide was the reason we were soooo late geting into Cape May... To continue up the Delaware river against the tide would less then desirable.... So we entered Cape May at just after 0130 and went hard-a-ground... We made a good faith attempt to radio the dockmaster (24/7 service) with no answer... So where is the channel? We called the USCG... Who informed us that if there was not danger to life or lost of property... We should put on life jackets and wait for the tide which was on the rise (in three hours)... So I put up the 150 genney and full maine - back winded both and slipped off the mud bank... Twenty minutes after arriving at the dock... Up came a high speed military assult team (USCG)in all it's might... One and a-half hours later the group left... The officer thanked us for our cooperation, told us that we should show this paperwork to the next boarding party for a soft return....and left... He did not consider our unspoken thoughts about being held at "gun (M-16's)point for the last hour.... LATER... I found out that the trainning school (ARMED BOARDING PARTIES) is located at the CAPE MAY GC group.... That was what it was all about...TRAINING NEW RECRUITS.... 0300 went to bed and at first light entered the Delaware bound for points south... I am now an active SFO for 'Casco Bay USCG AUX, Flotilla 21 1NR... Last year I called at Cap May again coming North.... What a Change after 10 years...I anhored off Coast Guard Training School and had a great visit -- The USCG equipment has changed a lot.... It's a nice place to stop heading North/South anytime... regards Lou, 'Lady of Portland', Morgan OI 41 (415)..
 
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gunter meyer

coast guard now and then

15 years ago the coastguard responded to my mayday. i could not be more grateful. it came quickly, reassured and helped me, and never asked for my mother's maiden name. judging from vhf traffic that seems to be the first question now. i was boarded last year. the folks were friendly. correct and intimidating. why do they have to wear heavy black scuffing boots? gunter meyer
 
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Larry

Glad that they are there

My experience with the Coast Guard may be a little biased since I am a member of the Coast Guard Auxiliary. Before I became a member several years ago, I was onboard a friend's 35' Dickerson Ketch in Portsmouth harbor. We were boarded by the CG while underway. The Coasties did their routine expection very professionally and with courtesy and it only took about 10 minutes. Being involved with the CG more closely now as an auxiliarist, I have a great deal of respect for their training, especially the SAR team members who really put their lives on the line for people in distress on the water. We hear about the spectacular rescues on the news but it is the day to day work that they do that makes me glad they are there when you need them.
 
Apr 13, 2005
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- - melbourne
a bit worried

Has anyboby informed the uscg how quickly a bit of a situation can turn into a life and death situation. I'm glad i am not paying tax in your country, I would expect a little more from a country whom claims to be the best in the world. Perhaps you should bring some personel back from hell to protect your own and the guest of you great land. On that happy note can anybody tell me if the uscg has a presence in the carribian and panama canal. I would hate to think that cruising grounds i have been looking forward to all my life have become unsafe due to "other comitments" If this has become the case I think we should all rethink what is really important to us all. We all sing about freedom whilst erecting fences around ourselves, I liked it better before we tried to take over the world.
 
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Scott

I'd be a bit worried, too ...

If my logic and priorities were as messed up as yours, mik. Are you trying to make a coherent point?
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday 25 pittsburgh
USCG, USA, US ARMY,etc

Cpt mik, I have great respect for those who ( read some of the previous posts in this thread) have been on the spot to help in SITUATIONS THAT COULD TURN DEADLY in a moment. America was attacked 9/11/01. We in the past have had pretty much open boarders before that. Since there are people that have brought thier hostility to our shores, we must guard ourselves. Even if that means going to other lands to protect ours. You said since "We tried to take over the world" Maybe that is what you are doing but we ( Americans) are trying to protect our world. I have read two of your posts and ( with your current attitude) if you missed our shores.... I would not mind it at all. Let Brazil come and help you. I have no problems with Aussies but you are rare. I really don't think you know anything about us but the things you hear. E-Mail me when you are in Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania or look me up in the phone book. ( that is why I give my real name) I would love to have you at my house to show you why I love America and why I find it justifyable to protect. If you come to our shores to see what is here, arms will be open. Leave your hostility at home. r.w.landau
 
Apr 13, 2005
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- - melbourne
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that was aimed at all of us, brothers in arms remember. Maybe i should go and talk to homeland again and loose the chip on my shoulders.
 
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Franklin

Yes

The US Coast guard is all over the place. Mostly just around our shores, but at times they do chase after vessels to other shores. Mexico welcomes our presence in their waters because it cuts down on their costs. With less rules governing the coast guard, like we have on land police, they are the last group I would want to mess with. They can board any ship any time they want as long as it's not in another nation's waters and even then sometimes they get permission to do so. Our police on the other hand have to have a court order to search private property. So, if you have something to hide or a chip on your shoulder about our Coast Guard, it's best you stay on your side of the world. After all, it's written into law for centuries that we protect the western hemosphere.
 
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gunter meyer

coast guard now and then II

this thread is fascinating. may i recommend to my fellow sailors to go crusing in german (dutch, french) waters where (not only reportedly) local authorities fall all over themselves to board anything afloat, to catch terrorists, fine you for not having your vhf on the right frequency, or whatever. it should be reassuring to you that they are out there to call on you before you have need to call on them. ghm
 
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