I have just purchased a '79 O'Day 22 and I am wondering if this would be suitable for some coastal cruising around the Gulf. Also, do you think a 4HP motor is big enough? If not, what size would you recommend. I can get a 4 HP for $500 with 10 hours on it! Thanks for any input you can give.
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I would keep looking for
at least an 8 horse if you plan on being away from shore and want to get to your hull speed in current. I guess it depends about what you would call coastal cruising? As fast as weather kicks up in the Gulf in my area, being more than an hour offshore while under power is pushing it to me. My boat can go 5-6 knots with the 10 hp engine so I will probably always stay within 4 to 5 miles of shore. I do not own a blue water boat that I would feel good about having my wife and son out far in a hard blow for a sustained amount of time. I have enough boat to go catch some dolphin and sail along the coast to get to the Keys from the Panhandle in no hurry. That is plenty good enough for me.
Some people would take your 22 or my 25 and sail it around the world. I am not that guy. Properly equipped, I would think your boat is plenty good to do some close to coast cruising if you can get to protected water with an eye on the weather.
at least an 8 horse if you plan on being away from shore and want to get to your hull speed in current. I guess it depends about what you would call coastal cruising? As fast as weather kicks up in the Gulf in my area, being more than an hour offshore while under power is pushing it to me. My boat can go 5-6 knots with the 10 hp engine so I will probably always stay within 4 to 5 miles of shore. I do not own a blue water boat that I would feel good about having my wife and son out far in a hard blow for a sustained amount of time. I have enough boat to go catch some dolphin and sail along the coast to get to the Keys from the Panhandle in no hurry. That is plenty good enough for me.
Some people would take your 22 or my 25 and sail it around the world. I am not that guy. Properly equipped, I would think your boat is plenty good to do some close to coast cruising if you can get to protected water with an eye on the weather.
Thanks!
Thank you, Dave, for your input. The suggestion on the motor is about what I was thinking, too. I'm glad to hear that you thought it was reasonable to cruise along the shore to the Keys as long as a close eye on the weather is kept. - Kurt
Thank you, Dave, for your input. The suggestion on the motor is about what I was thinking, too. I'm glad to hear that you thought it was reasonable to cruise along the shore to the Keys as long as a close eye on the weather is kept. - Kurt
Coastal cruising in an OD 22
I go along with Dave on the 8 HP outboard. The O'Day 22 is a perfect small coastal cruiser, but you have to pick your days and above all, try to have an alternate plan in the event that you can't make your destination. For instance, if an unexpected storm pops up, or something breaks down, you will have a second place to go to in an emergency. The more you use your boat the more you'll learn about her capabilities. Smooth Sailing!
Joe
I go along with Dave on the 8 HP outboard. The O'Day 22 is a perfect small coastal cruiser, but you have to pick your days and above all, try to have an alternate plan in the event that you can't make your destination. For instance, if an unexpected storm pops up, or something breaks down, you will have a second place to go to in an emergency. The more you use your boat the more you'll learn about her capabilities. Smooth Sailing!
Joe
Be sure
To make a list of equipment you will need for cruising. I would be very persistent in asking Joe about how to properly equip the boat. He has a lot of experience on the 22 and can tell you what redundancy you should have on board. He can also tell you some things you can do to make the boat more comfortable for extended stays. You really cannot afford to load up the boat with every single back up item; it takes a balance of need and spartanism. I would be hounding Joe for a heads up on everything you would need for your 22. I have sailed for quite a few years off and on. I keep switching between sailboats and powerboats. My O'Day 25 is a new experience to me also. I think the greatest decision I have made is to keep it at home for some months to do a refit. By the time I am done I will have had extensive experience with every, wire, and sheet on the boat. Spend some serious time with your boat.
To make a list of equipment you will need for cruising. I would be very persistent in asking Joe about how to properly equip the boat. He has a lot of experience on the 22 and can tell you what redundancy you should have on board. He can also tell you some things you can do to make the boat more comfortable for extended stays. You really cannot afford to load up the boat with every single back up item; it takes a balance of need and spartanism. I would be hounding Joe for a heads up on everything you would need for your 22. I have sailed for quite a few years off and on. I keep switching between sailboats and powerboats. My O'Day 25 is a new experience to me also. I think the greatest decision I have made is to keep it at home for some months to do a refit. By the time I am done I will have had extensive experience with every, wire, and sheet on the boat. Spend some serious time with your boat.
Coastal cruising necessities
David,
That's kind of a tall order, but I'll do my best with what I can remember. First of all; You should have two anchors on board. I always carried Danforths. In Martha's Vineyard, I was always asked by the Vineyard Haven Harbor master to use two anchors, Bahamian moor, if I wanted to anchor near the beach overnight. A radar reflector is good to have, although I never used mine much. One good thing to carry on board which is CG Approved and takes the place of flares, is an ACR Distress SOS night visual signal #SA1842 this light runs on four D batteries and sells for $16.95 at Landfall Navigation. I'm supplying the link to their site. I've always kept tools on board and extra parts. If you have a VHF radio with an aerial at the top of your mast, you should also have a small stubby aerial just in case you lose your mast. A Stubby is only about 6" long with a connector to screw on to your radio and allow you to make an emergency call if you lose your main aerial. Bring plenty of water. I carry a five gal., plus and extra 7 gal. on board. A shower bag is a must. If you have a Porta-Pottie, bring a large plastic bag to put the waste tank in so that you can carry it to a public rest room for waste disposal, and make sure you have the chemical packets on board for it. Have plenty of ropes on board and a bucket or two always comes in handy. I had a small wash board, and washed my own clothes with laundry detergent. A toilet plunger and a bucket can be substituted for the wash board. I've always had an Origo alcohol stove and did all my cooking on that. If you can find a stove-top oven I guarantee that you'll use it every day for heating up food or baking. A Stove-Top Grill is a must. They have a non stick Aluminum cooking dome and it's the best thing for making toast. Pick up some plastic storage containers with covers that will fit in the settee compartments for can goods, meats, soups, coffee, cereals, and Etc. You don't need marine nesting pots and pans. A 7 or 8 piece set of Revere cookware will do the job. I carry a 50 Quart Coleman Xtreme 3 day cooler, plus a 24 quart cooler, but I think that a collapsible cooler for transporting ice to the large cooler would be handy to have instead of the 24 quart cooler. We always carried two fishing poles on board and cooked our catch. We bought our ice wherever we could, and did our food shopping at the local markets and cooked it on board. We took showers in the cockpit and refilled our water wherever there was a water faucet handy. I still keep food on board and everything that I need for cruising. I sat down and figured out what I really needed to take, and what I could do without. It goes without saying that charts, nav equipment, cruising guides, and tide charts are always a must. If you don't have the chart for a particular area, don't go there. I know that some people will look at this list and say, "he didn't mention having this, or didn't mention having that." Believe me, I carried everything I needed including a rubber raft. Today, I tow a kayak and my dog can ride in it with me to shore. These are some of the many things that I carried when my wife and I went cruising up the Cape and Islands. I'll leave the rest up to you.
Smooth Sailing!
Joe
David,
That's kind of a tall order, but I'll do my best with what I can remember. First of all; You should have two anchors on board. I always carried Danforths. In Martha's Vineyard, I was always asked by the Vineyard Haven Harbor master to use two anchors, Bahamian moor, if I wanted to anchor near the beach overnight. A radar reflector is good to have, although I never used mine much. One good thing to carry on board which is CG Approved and takes the place of flares, is an ACR Distress SOS night visual signal #SA1842 this light runs on four D batteries and sells for $16.95 at Landfall Navigation. I'm supplying the link to their site. I've always kept tools on board and extra parts. If you have a VHF radio with an aerial at the top of your mast, you should also have a small stubby aerial just in case you lose your mast. A Stubby is only about 6" long with a connector to screw on to your radio and allow you to make an emergency call if you lose your main aerial. Bring plenty of water. I carry a five gal., plus and extra 7 gal. on board. A shower bag is a must. If you have a Porta-Pottie, bring a large plastic bag to put the waste tank in so that you can carry it to a public rest room for waste disposal, and make sure you have the chemical packets on board for it. Have plenty of ropes on board and a bucket or two always comes in handy. I had a small wash board, and washed my own clothes with laundry detergent. A toilet plunger and a bucket can be substituted for the wash board. I've always had an Origo alcohol stove and did all my cooking on that. If you can find a stove-top oven I guarantee that you'll use it every day for heating up food or baking. A Stove-Top Grill is a must. They have a non stick Aluminum cooking dome and it's the best thing for making toast. Pick up some plastic storage containers with covers that will fit in the settee compartments for can goods, meats, soups, coffee, cereals, and Etc. You don't need marine nesting pots and pans. A 7 or 8 piece set of Revere cookware will do the job. I carry a 50 Quart Coleman Xtreme 3 day cooler, plus a 24 quart cooler, but I think that a collapsible cooler for transporting ice to the large cooler would be handy to have instead of the 24 quart cooler. We always carried two fishing poles on board and cooked our catch. We bought our ice wherever we could, and did our food shopping at the local markets and cooked it on board. We took showers in the cockpit and refilled our water wherever there was a water faucet handy. I still keep food on board and everything that I need for cruising. I sat down and figured out what I really needed to take, and what I could do without. It goes without saying that charts, nav equipment, cruising guides, and tide charts are always a must. If you don't have the chart for a particular area, don't go there. I know that some people will look at this list and say, "he didn't mention having this, or didn't mention having that." Believe me, I carried everything I needed including a rubber raft. Today, I tow a kayak and my dog can ride in it with me to shore. These are some of the many things that I carried when my wife and I went cruising up the Cape and Islands. I'll leave the rest up to you.
Smooth Sailing!
Joe
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Thanks Joe , this post is a lot to print, I assume all this post will be in the thread tracker? I really don't know the threaad tracker works?
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I just tried to "add this post to my thread tracker", and I am logged in and registered unless I have to log & reg again for the Thread Tracker I don't know. Some body help!!!!
Thanks Joe , this post is a lot to print, I assume all this post will be in the thread tracker? I really don't know the threaad tracker works?
Your friend David S
Joe your boat interior pic..
doesn't look like anything in the interior of my 1979 O'day 22. Why? I have home made a poly tarp for over cockpit and cabin with pvc pipe at both ends, one end fastens to the shrouds and other end to the backstay. I use it when sailing only with my 150 genoa and the boom removed. I have yet to try it under the boom while sailing or anchored. Could you post pics of your forward and aft tarps installed on your boat if you have any?
Happy Sailing David S
doesn't look like anything in the interior of my 1979 O'day 22. Why? I have home made a poly tarp for over cockpit and cabin with pvc pipe at both ends, one end fastens to the shrouds and other end to the backstay. I use it when sailing only with my 150 genoa and the boom removed. I have yet to try it under the boom while sailing or anchored. Could you post pics of your forward and aft tarps installed on your boat if you have any?
Happy Sailing David S
Tarps
David,
Josh is right. I have an O'Day 222 that I bought new in 1986. I use my boom tarp whenever I anchor in the hot sun or rainy days at anchor. I have don't have PVC for my tarp. I tie if to the mast and the end of the boom and to the lifelines. I tie a smaller tarp from my mast to my furler and bow cleats, and bottom of my lifeline rails. I used a smaller tarp tied to my stern rail and lifelines with Rolling Hitches while being supported by my boat pole while I was sailing during the summer, and it worked out okay. I'd love to have a small Bimini Top on my boat if I could mount it where it wouldn't be in the way of anything. My boat doesn't handle well at all with just a Gennie. If your boat does, then you're pretty lucky. David, if you want to email me just click on to my name over my avatar and I'll be glad to send you and pictures that I have of my boat including mast raising/lowering gear. Here's a picture of my "poor sailor's Bimini Top". It looks stupid, but it worked out okay that day for us.
Joe
David,
Josh is right. I have an O'Day 222 that I bought new in 1986. I use my boom tarp whenever I anchor in the hot sun or rainy days at anchor. I have don't have PVC for my tarp. I tie if to the mast and the end of the boom and to the lifelines. I tie a smaller tarp from my mast to my furler and bow cleats, and bottom of my lifeline rails. I used a smaller tarp tied to my stern rail and lifelines with Rolling Hitches while being supported by my boat pole while I was sailing during the summer, and it worked out okay. I'd love to have a small Bimini Top on my boat if I could mount it where it wouldn't be in the way of anything. My boat doesn't handle well at all with just a Gennie. If your boat does, then you're pretty lucky. David, if you want to email me just click on to my name over my avatar and I'll be glad to send you and pictures that I have of my boat including mast raising/lowering gear. Here's a picture of my "poor sailor's Bimini Top". It looks stupid, but it worked out okay that day for us.
Joe
Quick release hitches
Using some kind of a sun shelter is an absolute must when I'm on the hook in my favorite gunk holes aboard Trinkka. But, it's necessary to be able to collapse these tarps in a hurry when the need arises. For instance; if my boat slips the anchor, or an unexpected squall creeps up fast while I was preoccupied down in the cabin. So the best solution that I've found are two quick release knots. Where I tie off my polytarp to the lifelines, I use a slipped Clove hitches, pictured. for tying the ropes to the lifeline bales on my stern rail, I use a round turn and one slipped half hitch. These knots can be tripped very fast as I walk forward to the bow or or back to the stern.
Using some kind of a sun shelter is an absolute must when I'm on the hook in my favorite gunk holes aboard Trinkka. But, it's necessary to be able to collapse these tarps in a hurry when the need arises. For instance; if my boat slips the anchor, or an unexpected squall creeps up fast while I was preoccupied down in the cabin. So the best solution that I've found are two quick release knots. Where I tie off my polytarp to the lifelines, I use a slipped Clove hitches, pictured. for tying the ropes to the lifeline bales on my stern rail, I use a round turn and one slipped half hitch. These knots can be tripped very fast as I walk forward to the bow or or back to the stern.
Thanks all!
Just want ot say THANKS! to all who have responded to my question regarding a motor for the 22' O'Day, and to all the discussions that are very helpful. What a great site and great people who make it that way. Smooth sailing! - Kurt
Just want ot say THANKS! to all who have responded to my question regarding a motor for the 22' O'Day, and to all the discussions that are very helpful. What a great site and great people who make it that way. Smooth sailing! - Kurt
Great help!
Hi Joe,
I have a 23' Oday 1978 and recently moved her from Lake Keowee to Ft Lauderdale. I like the list for coastal sailing. My boat has a 15 Mercury engine and I want to take her to the Keys. Thanks
Tommie
Hi Joe,
I have a 23' Oday 1978 and recently moved her from Lake Keowee to Ft Lauderdale. I like the list for coastal sailing. My boat has a 15 Mercury engine and I want to take her to the Keys. Thanks
Tommie
O'Day 23
Tommy,
Nice looking boat! Rudy Nickerson told me that the O'Day 23s were one of the best boats that O'Day built after 1974. You're going to have a blast with that boat in the Keys, I'm sure. Years ago, my wife and I sailed the 222 all over the Cape and islands, plus Narragansett Bay. We anchored everywhere we sailed, and never rented a mooring. We bought our food and ice in local markets, and took our showers on board with whatever water we could get from ashore. We hardly ever used the engine. Cruising just couldn't come cheaper than that. I haven't done much cruising lately. Good luck Tommy. I'm green with envy!
Regards,
Joe
Tommy,
Nice looking boat! Rudy Nickerson told me that the O'Day 23s were one of the best boats that O'Day built after 1974. You're going to have a blast with that boat in the Keys, I'm sure. Years ago, my wife and I sailed the 222 all over the Cape and islands, plus Narragansett Bay. We anchored everywhere we sailed, and never rented a mooring. We bought our food and ice in local markets, and took our showers on board with whatever water we could get from ashore. We hardly ever used the engine. Cruising just couldn't come cheaper than that. I haven't done much cruising lately. Good luck Tommy. I'm green with envy!
Regards,
Joe
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