Clew Outhaul H146 - DYI or FActory Supplied

[esterhazyinoz]

Clew Outhaul H146 - DIY or Factory Supplied?

As the bits of my new H15 (the fibreglass H146) slowly make their way to the ends of the earth where I live, would someone with one the 146/170's please show me what the clew outhaul is supposed to look like. The last daysailer I owned ( locally designed and built but very similar to the H216) had a system as per what is illustrated in the H15 Owners Guide (line and blocks inside the boom, ultimately coming out and attaching to a jam cleat). There is one jam cleat mounted on the side of the boom (not 2 as per the manual illustration-the other being for the reefing set up) and the are no openings for the line to emerge. So what's up here? I can design and install something my self but this experience surely doesn't match any reasonable expectations. (I must say that I knowingly accepted the task of performing the setup of this boat because the agent/dealer is 2500 miles away (who would have normally done the setup) but I don't understand why there is a detailed illustration in the manual if it doesn't reflect the construction of the boat.
I'd greatly appreciate it if someone would:
1. Confirm that I wasn't delivered a 'partially constructed' boom.
2. If this is a normal situation, post explanation (photos better) of how you have your clew outhaul set up.
Cheers!

 

[esterhazyinoz]

To clarify what I was talking about in my initial posting I have attached a screenshot from the owners manual that came with my new 15. The only hardware that is on my boom is one jamcleat on the port side of the boom not the bottom as indicated in the diagram. Do owners just loop a bit of line from the bale that is at the end of the boom to the grommet at the mainsail clew and pull tight?
I would love to understand how other owners are dealing with this aspect of sail shaping.

 

[heliBartek]

Here's a picture from an older tread dealing with various 170 improvements. This specific picture represents slightly modified outhaul with added purchase for easier operation. It's the last picture on the bottom. Incidentally I used that particular idea and it works great.

http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/in...id=267&cat_id=11&aid=7314&page=article&mn=170

On my 170 I have the same setup as you, with the jam block located on the port side of the boom. The line runs from the tack clew to the small block, at the end of a boom, and then back to the jam block. All of it is ran outside of the boom.

hope this helps

cheers

 

[esterhazyinoz]

That setup is what I used to have on my 21 footer and was what I was thinking to do here because I had already noodled my boom. I wasn't looking forward to the de-noodling process as it was a real bummer stuffing those noodles down those spars.
Thanks very much for the visual reference. The people like you on this forum are just so helpful. I'm sure that all new hunter owners really appreciate the advice that is given, I sure do!
Cheers from Oz

 

[BlueRunner]

http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/in...id=267&cat_id=11&aid=7314&page=article&mn=170

Re the picture at the site above that shows the shroud quick releases, is the "normal" position the number 3 holes? I'm on the road at the moment so I don't have access to my manual, but I did take a spin through the manual about a week ago and I think it showed using the number 3 holes in the standard shroud releases as well.

IF I used the number 3 holes, I doubt I could get enough slack in the shroud lines to step the mast or at least perform the first step in getting the bottom pins in the step slot.

 

[esterhazyinoz]

Epilogue - installing an outhaul on my new H15:
After buying two small Ronstan series 20 blocks ala the excellent H170 example suggested above, I tried it out in my garage. However the clew of the main comes so close to the end of the boom (boom attached to mast and mainsail tack connected to the tack pin at the gooseneck) that the two blocks touched without providing much tension along the foot of the main.
So I replaced one of the blocks for a cheek mounted version which now sits on the side of the boom with the line ending in a Ronstan V-Cleet with an integral fairlead.
I’ll post photos after I get my main back from the local sail maker who is installing a Cunningham eye about 20 cm above the tack. With the high winds that we experience here in Perth I think I am really going to need all the sail shaping control I can get
I believe that this or one like that suggested from the 170 owner is far easier and requiring less modification to the boom than the internally installed suggestion from the Hunter owners manual.
Thanks again for helping me find the right solution.

 

[esterhazyinoz]

As a fair number of people have looked at this thread, I have uploaded the photo I promised to post. This is a quick, easy and inexpensive mod to provide some more sail shaping and therefore control over how much power your mainsail has.