Chipped varnish

Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Dave, nicks and dents, then fixing and recoating is called 'patina'. it makes the boat worth more.
well, that's what i claim anyway :cool:
Yes, the patina of use. That's what I call all the nicks and scrapes in my hull. It has nothing to do with ability to dock the sucker. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :biggrin:
 

TomY

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Jun 22, 2004
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Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
"Varnish zen master" I bow to your great skill, outstanding work. I do have the time but no longer have the energy, to make my old girl shine like that.
I don't either,.... But the lens -and distance - makes brightwork as good as you want.
 
Jan 11, 2014
13,069
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Interesting combination of current forum threads.

One, how to repair chipped varnish. The other, Why shouldn't I let my teak go gray?
 
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TomY

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Jun 22, 2004
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Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
Interesting combination of current forum threads.

One, how to repair chipped varnish. The other, Why shouldn't I let my teak go gray?
Great nugget of info from the person who said, "If you're not sure what you're doing, don't!" Let it go gray. Grey will outlast cupping and chewing wood up to 'prep"

You should do very little sanding in varnishing, even (especially) if you have to take it back to 'wood'.

Last I knew, this boat is approaching 100.

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Jun 16, 2020
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Hinckley Sou’wester 30 Falmouth ME
I thought someone might go there...since we bought the boat last year, the Admiral made it clear she would like the grayed toe rail varnished which at this point probably means getting it replaced as it is probably original. This is a pretty strong push from the Admiral, so I am looking into it this winter. (I’m sure I will need to take another mortgage out on the house)
 
Jan 11, 2014
13,069
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I thought someone might go there...since we bought the boat last year, the Admiral made it clear she would like the grayed toe rail varnished which at this point probably means getting it replaced as it is probably original. This is a pretty strong push from the Admiral, so I am looking into it this winter. (I’m sure I will need to take another mortgage out on the house)
Toe rails are a special circumstance when it comes to varnish. Depending on the design of the toe rail it can be difficult if not impossible to fully seal the teak which allows water to wick up under the varnish. It quickly turns color and peels off. Sabre sailboats are notorious for the issue which frustrates many owners and sparks "varnish wars" on a Sabre list.

Toe rails are often partially submerged when the boat is heeling which is part of the problem as water can then wick under the varnish. One solution to the problem is Cetol Natural teak. The color is close to acceptable and the finish is porous, thus any water wicking under the varnish can evaporate. This is not the orange Cetol which is quite deserving of vitriol due to its color.

Another option which I will probably try next spring is Semco Teak finish. Reportedly, this finish is not subject to peeling and does not support mold growth that oil does. Maintenance of Semco is fairly easy and inexpensive.

Before spending heavily on new teak rails do some research to make certain water can't wick up under the varnish. If the rails have not been varnished by the PO who loved varnish, there is a reason.
 
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TomY

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Jun 22, 2004
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I thought someone might go there...since we bought the boat last year, the Admiral made it clear she would like the grayed toe rail varnished which at this point probably means getting it replaced as it is probably original. This is a pretty strong push from the Admiral, so I am looking into it this winter. (I’m sure I will need to take another mortgage out on the house)
Do you have a close up of your toe rails? They run the gambit from easy to replace to quite costly. I would guess a Hinckley SW 30 has real toe rails that stand proud of the deck and are through bolted. They likely have a stout section too so the may be salvageable.
 
May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
toe rail, what are toe rails? they are a safety feature. they are to give you footing on a heeled over deck so you do not go overboard. that said, you might choose to have max grip for your footing. that might not be a varnished toe rail.

option 3: varnish the top and outside to the toe rail and leave the the inside face natural
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that's how we roll on aeolus :cool:
 
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