I have a dear friend who now calls his Hunter 33 a Cherubini. It seems to me that there is nothing wrong with calling your boat a Cherubini designed Hunter or Cherubini Hunter for short ((or Cherubini design hull)? But to call your Hunter 33 a Cherubini instead seems inappropriate. Many great boat designers have worked their way through several larger production boat companies (unless they were major shareholders in one company). But that doesn't mean you can change the name type of your boat. To me Cherubini infers a level of custom detailing that Hunter was not prepared to execute at the time that he worked there. Now, I expect that all you Hunter owners that call your boat Cherubini's will repond with your logic for why it's OK, but I honestly want to know other peoples objective opinion on this matter, and I'm calling upon you Cherubini designed Hunter owners to enlighten me.
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One word is shorter than two
and we really like our distinctive design, so we often say Cherubini instead of Cherubini Hunter. Same as Taurus, or Ford Taurus, either is acceptable as far as I can see, so we go for the shorter of the two. I think John Cherubini did a little more than "work his way through" Hunter. All of the Hunters from the beginning through the mid 80's were his design so it's also a good way to talk about boats with common characteristics, sailing performance, and maintenance issues. David Lady Lillie 1977 Cherubini Hunter 27
and we really like our distinctive design, so we often say Cherubini instead of Cherubini Hunter. Same as Taurus, or Ford Taurus, either is acceptable as far as I can see, so we go for the shorter of the two. I think John Cherubini did a little more than "work his way through" Hunter. All of the Hunters from the beginning through the mid 80's were his design so it's also a good way to talk about boats with common characteristics, sailing performance, and maintenance issues. David Lady Lillie 1977 Cherubini Hunter 27
Cherubini
From what I understand Cherubini was employed by Hunter. So it is a Hunter. Like a Perry designed Islander is still an Islander. But I know where your friend is coming from. When people ask what type of boat I have, I say Hunter and then explain its a Cherubini designed Hunter. Usually they just look at me and nod there heads. Kevin Hostler
From what I understand Cherubini was employed by Hunter. So it is a Hunter. Like a Perry designed Islander is still an Islander. But I know where your friend is coming from. When people ask what type of boat I have, I say Hunter and then explain its a Cherubini designed Hunter. Usually they just look at me and nod there heads. Kevin Hostler
Ford Taurus Analogy
David, I appreciate your analogy, but if Taurus were the name of another company, then you can't really call your car a Taurus. Stewart
David, I appreciate your analogy, but if Taurus were the name of another company, then you can't really call your car a Taurus. Stewart
A Taurus by another name...
Don't understand your point for this case. Our boats _are_ Cherubini Hunters, and shortening it is logical. Although John Cherubini went on to his own design house and other designs, he certainly never renounced his work for Hunter. My Hunter 27 is a Cherubini in the same sense as those later boats are. By the way, I usually refer to Lady Lillie as a '77 h27. Adding the designer reference comes later if at all. But the short form is useful on this site. David Lady Lillie
Don't understand your point for this case. Our boats _are_ Cherubini Hunters, and shortening it is logical. Although John Cherubini went on to his own design house and other designs, he certainly never renounced his work for Hunter. My Hunter 27 is a Cherubini in the same sense as those later boats are. By the way, I usually refer to Lady Lillie as a '77 h27. Adding the designer reference comes later if at all. But the short form is useful on this site. David Lady Lillie
Shortening the name works only in this forum
David, I won't press further, but following is a link to some Cherubini photos: http://www.indecherub.com/yacht_photos.htm Cherubini's are billed as 'the worlds best sailboats' and '..thriving in the elite end of the sailing market..' It isn't realistic outside this forum to bill a Hunter designed by Cherubini as simply a Cherubini, in my opinion. Stewart
David, I won't press further, but following is a link to some Cherubini photos: http://www.indecherub.com/yacht_photos.htm Cherubini's are billed as 'the worlds best sailboats' and '..thriving in the elite end of the sailing market..' It isn't realistic outside this forum to bill a Hunter designed by Cherubini as simply a Cherubini, in my opinion. Stewart
Fantastic boat!
The photos on that link inspire me to further enhance our Hunter "Cherubini" 30. Absolutely breathtaking. For those of us lucky enough to own a Hunter sailboat designed by John Cherubini (and JC2) we now can recognize what a gem in sailboats we have. We need to preserve this heritage.
The photos on that link inspire me to further enhance our Hunter "Cherubini" 30. Absolutely breathtaking. For those of us lucky enough to own a Hunter sailboat designed by John Cherubini (and JC2) we now can recognize what a gem in sailboats we have. We need to preserve this heritage.
My 2 cents
Stewert, I tend to agree with you. Of course your good friend can call his boat whatever he likes, but to call it a Cherubini is inaccurate and IMHO tacky. I think referring to the early Hunters designed by Mr. Cherubini as "Cherubini Hunters", is quite appropriate and gives the designer a little more well deserved recognition. Now if we could just get JCII to come up with that insignia for us to display on our boats......
Stewert, I tend to agree with you. Of course your good friend can call his boat whatever he likes, but to call it a Cherubini is inaccurate and IMHO tacky. I think referring to the early Hunters designed by Mr. Cherubini as "Cherubini Hunters", is quite appropriate and gives the designer a little more well deserved recognition. Now if we could just get JCII to come up with that insignia for us to display on our boats......
A Rose By Any Other Name.........
When I describe my 37c to others, I call it a Hunter designed by Cherubini. I'm proud of both the names; Hunter because they deliver a lot of boat for the price, and Cherubini because it differentiates my boat from the current Hunter offerings, not to mention the inherent class accompanying Mr. Cherubini's name. I think calling these boats Cherubinis is misleading at best.
When I describe my 37c to others, I call it a Hunter designed by Cherubini. I'm proud of both the names; Hunter because they deliver a lot of boat for the price, and Cherubini because it differentiates my boat from the current Hunter offerings, not to mention the inherent class accompanying Mr. Cherubini's name. I think calling these boats Cherubinis is misleading at best.
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