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I used to use my real name...
I used to use my real name but due to a few losers who kept e-mailing me with "special offers" I now surf under a screen name. If you want to know who I am check out my web site, which is also anonymous, but has an e-mail address set up for the prupose: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising Those who know who I am know I've been around here since this sites inception. I have also been a large contributor to Sailnet, CWBB, CSBB, L&A forums, SSCA etc. etc.. You don't need to use your real name on the net and in many ways should NOT. Even with just a name like Tim R. you can track someone down if you want to. My actual street mail box is so flooded with high dollar mail order catalogs, due to using my real name, that I recycle an 18 gallon rubber maid container per week. I was even using my boats name and started getting mail addressed to "my boat name/my name" and address. I'm guessing they punched in the name of my boat in the Coast Guard documentation web site and I happen to own the only boat with that name. It is very easy to track someone down who uses their real name especially for mail order catalogs that pay people to cruise the net for "high earners". Don't laugh, my friend works for a very large mail order and they do this. BMW forums, Mercedes forums, aeronautical forums & boating forums will all get you solicited if you use your real name or give enough info so someone can track you down. At best first name only and locale unless of course you don't mind being harrassed by the internet losers. I'm sorry that you feel people can only have credibility if they use their real name! Anyone can come on here and call them selves Steve Jones? Should this fictitious person have more forum cred than someone who has been here for years and years using a screen name?? Maine Sail
I used to use my real name but due to a few losers who kept e-mailing me with "special offers" I now surf under a screen name. If you want to know who I am check out my web site, which is also anonymous, but has an e-mail address set up for the prupose: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising Those who know who I am know I've been around here since this sites inception. I have also been a large contributor to Sailnet, CWBB, CSBB, L&A forums, SSCA etc. etc.. You don't need to use your real name on the net and in many ways should NOT. Even with just a name like Tim R. you can track someone down if you want to. My actual street mail box is so flooded with high dollar mail order catalogs, due to using my real name, that I recycle an 18 gallon rubber maid container per week. I was even using my boats name and started getting mail addressed to "my boat name/my name" and address. I'm guessing they punched in the name of my boat in the Coast Guard documentation web site and I happen to own the only boat with that name. It is very easy to track someone down who uses their real name especially for mail order catalogs that pay people to cruise the net for "high earners". Don't laugh, my friend works for a very large mail order and they do this. BMW forums, Mercedes forums, aeronautical forums & boating forums will all get you solicited if you use your real name or give enough info so someone can track you down. At best first name only and locale unless of course you don't mind being harrassed by the internet losers. I'm sorry that you feel people can only have credibility if they use their real name! Anyone can come on here and call them selves Steve Jones? Should this fictitious person have more forum cred than someone who has been here for years and years using a screen name?? Maine Sail
r.w.landau what is your picture of?
Rome? Are you into Roman history or something? I am! Are you watching the Rome series on TV? Rome gave it's people everything we have today, Law and order, paved road, the senate, the games, running water, air conditioning.....etc etc etc... The republic lasted 1000 years! If it were still around we would be light years ahead right now!
Rome? Are you into Roman history or something? I am! Are you watching the Rome series on TV? Rome gave it's people everything we have today, Law and order, paved road, the senate, the games, running water, air conditioning.....etc etc etc... The republic lasted 1000 years! If it were still around we would be light years ahead right now!
Hey R.W....
In 10 seconds I found your address and what you do for a living on Yahoo. I'm not trying to stalk you but rather make you aware of what data can be grabbed in less than 20 seconds. What would happen if someone actually put some time into it?? I don't find this particularly wise to much data in the hands of a criminal and you could be a victim of an identity theft at the least. I speak from experience....
In 10 seconds I found your address and what you do for a living on Yahoo. I'm not trying to stalk you but rather make you aware of what data can be grabbed in less than 20 seconds. What would happen if someone actually put some time into it?? I don't find this particularly wise to much data in the hands of a criminal and you could be a victim of an identity theft at the least. I speak from experience....
I've been trying......
I've been having difficulty with this. I registered quite a while ago but lately, I've been posting without signing in. When this all came up a few weeks ago (avatars, etc.)I tried to log in but couldn't remember my password. I clicked on "Forget your password?" on 3 different attempts to log in and never receive the email to help me remember. I finally, today, hit on my password and logged in. I still can't find where I can edit my profile and I seem to remember that when I would log in during a post or enter my name after logging in, my home port would automatically come up. That's not happening now and when I tried to log in during this post it just said "you are already logged in". I'm confused but that's nothing new. I'm curious to see if my name shows up in blue for this post. Tom s/v Orion's Child
I've been having difficulty with this. I registered quite a while ago but lately, I've been posting without signing in. When this all came up a few weeks ago (avatars, etc.)I tried to log in but couldn't remember my password. I clicked on "Forget your password?" on 3 different attempts to log in and never receive the email to help me remember. I finally, today, hit on my password and logged in. I still can't find where I can edit my profile and I seem to remember that when I would log in during a post or enter my name after logging in, my home port would automatically come up. That's not happening now and when I tried to log in during this post it just said "you are already logged in". I'm confused but that's nothing new. I'm curious to see if my name shows up in blue for this post. Tom s/v Orion's Child
Rome
I think an interesting study is what brought the Roman (and other) empires down, and looking for corrollaries to our own society. How long did the longest societies last?
I think an interesting study is what brought the Roman (and other) empires down, and looking for corrollaries to our own society. How long did the longest societies last?
Too much information is not good RW.
Maine Sail is absolutely correct. You don't want (or even need) all the information that is posted in your description. K.I.S.S. Everyone should be aware of the dangers when posting any personal information to the internet.
Maine Sail is absolutely correct. You don't want (or even need) all the information that is posted in your description. K.I.S.S. Everyone should be aware of the dangers when posting any personal information to the internet.
not for me
....it is up to me wheather or not I want to take advice or not. I can usually tell if the advice is good by what the author writes and how he/she writes. I go by the assumption that all people are good people and the far majority of the people on this site are good natured folks, like me. So thanks for all those who I don't know that have written in on giving me advice. I have learned a lot. I also hope I have helped others. Name Withheld by Request
....it is up to me wheather or not I want to take advice or not. I can usually tell if the advice is good by what the author writes and how he/she writes. I go by the assumption that all people are good people and the far majority of the people on this site are good natured folks, like me. So thanks for all those who I don't know that have written in on giving me advice. I have learned a lot. I also hope I have helped others. Name Withheld by Request
This is confusing
I must admit that I don't have a clue as to what this thread is referring to. I am in the owner's registry, and whenever I open a thread, the page automatically fills in my name and homeport. However, I don't see any place to "register" for the forums, or any way to create an avatar. Also, Phil's response earlier in this thread indicated that registered users' names appear as blue links. No one on this or any thread appears on my screen as a blue (or any other color) link, and no avatars appear on my screen. So, what do I need to do to "register"? Why can't I see registered users and their avatars? I see these threads titled "test", and they appear no different than any other: name in black, no avatar. While I disagree with R.W.'s premise that advice from non-registered users is inherently less valuable, I would at least like to have my links with this forum be fully functional. I have been an active reader and contributer to this site for seven years now, and have found it to be invaluable. Thanks for any help you can offer.
I must admit that I don't have a clue as to what this thread is referring to. I am in the owner's registry, and whenever I open a thread, the page automatically fills in my name and homeport. However, I don't see any place to "register" for the forums, or any way to create an avatar. Also, Phil's response earlier in this thread indicated that registered users' names appear as blue links. No one on this or any thread appears on my screen as a blue (or any other color) link, and no avatars appear on my screen. So, what do I need to do to "register"? Why can't I see registered users and their avatars? I see these threads titled "test", and they appear no different than any other: name in black, no avatar. While I disagree with R.W.'s premise that advice from non-registered users is inherently less valuable, I would at least like to have my links with this forum be fully functional. I have been an active reader and contributer to this site for seven years now, and have found it to be invaluable. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Mike
Your name appears in blue on my screen and it appears you registered in 2004. All seems to be working well in that regard.
Your name appears in blue on my screen and it appears you registered in 2004. All seems to be working well in that regard.
What or if you have a profile has no bearing
On the content of your post. I would certainly question the validity of RW's posts based on the fact that he has minimal ocean experience and sails mostly on an inland lake. The fact that he has a profile, and what it tells me, would steer me away from giving credibility to his posts when they relate to actual ocean experience. It's great that he has been around boats since the age of 4 but they have been "lake boats" for the most part including a Sears Game Fisher?? Great! I had a 14 foot Miro Craft, as a tender, when I was 9 but why the heck does that matter when we discuss mostly coastal and distance voyaging on sites like this. I also used to own a GI Joe, a Big Jim and a Big Wheel they have about the same relativity as a Sears Game Fisher does to this site. Perhaps I should add these items when and if I create a profile?? A fresh water environment is far different from the ocean. Repair techniques that work in fresh water don't always translate into a lasting repair in the ocean environment. I have not registered on this board but do read it freequently although I post rarely. I have over 65k nm under my keel but no "profile" so you guys should not take me to seriously when I do post because I do not have a profile listing a Sears Game Fisher?????
On the content of your post. I would certainly question the validity of RW's posts based on the fact that he has minimal ocean experience and sails mostly on an inland lake. The fact that he has a profile, and what it tells me, would steer me away from giving credibility to his posts when they relate to actual ocean experience. It's great that he has been around boats since the age of 4 but they have been "lake boats" for the most part including a Sears Game Fisher?? Great! I had a 14 foot Miro Craft, as a tender, when I was 9 but why the heck does that matter when we discuss mostly coastal and distance voyaging on sites like this. I also used to own a GI Joe, a Big Jim and a Big Wheel they have about the same relativity as a Sears Game Fisher does to this site. Perhaps I should add these items when and if I create a profile?? A fresh water environment is far different from the ocean. Repair techniques that work in fresh water don't always translate into a lasting repair in the ocean environment. I have not registered on this board but do read it freequently although I post rarely. I have over 65k nm under my keel but no "profile" so you guys should not take me to seriously when I do post because I do not have a profile listing a Sears Game Fisher?????
J34, Whoever you may be. I know a man
with a PHD in mathmatics but he drives a truck for a living because he enjoys it. Does his education vanish when he gets behind the wheel of a truck? A high school physics student can know more about the orbit of the moon than does the old man of the mountains who has looked at it for 60 years. There is no call for you to disparage a man because his 75 word resume` seems incomplete. If I were to detail ALL of my training and experience gained in 68 years of living most people would think that I was embellishing. You say that you have 65,000 miles under your keel. I know others that also lay claim to that achievment. But where did you sail to gain that experience? There is one man that I know that has sailed three times around the world in boats that he built with his own hands. He didn't just stand back and throw money at the job. I simply don't believe that you know enough about any of us to be in a position to make disparaging comment.
with a PHD in mathmatics but he drives a truck for a living because he enjoys it. Does his education vanish when he gets behind the wheel of a truck? A high school physics student can know more about the orbit of the moon than does the old man of the mountains who has looked at it for 60 years. There is no call for you to disparage a man because his 75 word resume` seems incomplete. If I were to detail ALL of my training and experience gained in 68 years of living most people would think that I was embellishing. You say that you have 65,000 miles under your keel. I know others that also lay claim to that achievment. But where did you sail to gain that experience? There is one man that I know that has sailed three times around the world in boats that he built with his own hands. He didn't just stand back and throw money at the job. I simply don't believe that you know enough about any of us to be in a position to make disparaging comment.
I think that if one does not register...
Yet claims to have 65k nm under their keel lends to the "yeah, right" syndrome. Not saying that you, j34, don't have 65k nm under your keel, there is no way I can prove or disprove that, but usually when one bears credible information in their profile, one is more apt to believe one when they say "I have 65k nm under my keel". If I say I've talked to the astronauts or I've talked to the moon, one would say, "yeah, right". But if one looks at my profile one will see that I have within me both the means and the "expertise" to do such tasks. Therefore giving myself credence to what I have said. By the way, I have done neither, yet. Anonymity on the net is great to protect oneself, but sometimes anonymity compounded with what appears to be gross exaggerations turns most people off. Registering does not put one in danger of someone obtaining private information. It does help the site by showing a large number of members, thus, giving credence to the validity of Sailboatowners.com as a source of credible information.
Yet claims to have 65k nm under their keel lends to the "yeah, right" syndrome. Not saying that you, j34, don't have 65k nm under your keel, there is no way I can prove or disprove that, but usually when one bears credible information in their profile, one is more apt to believe one when they say "I have 65k nm under my keel". If I say I've talked to the astronauts or I've talked to the moon, one would say, "yeah, right". But if one looks at my profile one will see that I have within me both the means and the "expertise" to do such tasks. Therefore giving myself credence to what I have said. By the way, I have done neither, yet. Anonymity on the net is great to protect oneself, but sometimes anonymity compounded with what appears to be gross exaggerations turns most people off. Registering does not put one in danger of someone obtaining private information. It does help the site by showing a large number of members, thus, giving credence to the validity of Sailboatowners.com as a source of credible information.
Relax
J34- Take it easy. Nobody said you had to register to post or read on this forum. I agree credibility of a poster should not be based on the fact that you can see his bio. I think there are issues were people have given some pretty lame responces and have been able to hide behind a fictious name. Yes, this will still be able to happen. Sometimes in the translation of words to type, things can be taken in a different tone as intended. Lots of times outright flaming occurs, which is not oppropriate. I hope that people are giving true responces out, rather than just adding to a post to do just that. I think that you will probably not see any post where R.W is talking about circumnavigation, but rather many post related to boat maintenance. If I would have known R.W knew about Sears Game Fishers, I might have just sparred the rest of the posters from my possible questions related to this. Nobody is putting a gun to anyones head to register, so just relax. Rob Hessenius
J34- Take it easy. Nobody said you had to register to post or read on this forum. I agree credibility of a poster should not be based on the fact that you can see his bio. I think there are issues were people have given some pretty lame responces and have been able to hide behind a fictious name. Yes, this will still be able to happen. Sometimes in the translation of words to type, things can be taken in a different tone as intended. Lots of times outright flaming occurs, which is not oppropriate. I hope that people are giving true responces out, rather than just adding to a post to do just that. I think that you will probably not see any post where R.W is talking about circumnavigation, but rather many post related to boat maintenance. If I would have known R.W knew about Sears Game Fishers, I might have just sparred the rest of the posters from my possible questions related to this. Nobody is putting a gun to anyones head to register, so just relax. Rob Hessenius
It was not meant to disparage..
It was not meant to disparage anyone or RW it was simply meant to point out the crazyness associated with basing someones credibility on wether or not they use their real name in a profile. I have read hundreds of RW's posts and he is mostly right on the money and I can gather that from reading his posts. If I were to read his profile I do not get that same credibilty warm and fuzzy feeling. A rpofile or if someone uses his her real name was what my post was about sorry you did not get the tounge in cheek approach. As for my sailing, 40 years, including a two year cruise with parents from 13 to 15 years of age including Europe, Azores, Carib, South America, Panama Canal and up to Alaska. Six Marion to Bermuda trips numerous yacht deliveries on both coasts plus a straigh offshore trip from Newfoundland to North Carolina in constant 25 - 30 knot winds. I don't register and don't feel a need to so RW's post struck a nerve but it was in no way meant to be a slam on RW just the concept of credibility only relating to registerd posters.
It was not meant to disparage anyone or RW it was simply meant to point out the crazyness associated with basing someones credibility on wether or not they use their real name in a profile. I have read hundreds of RW's posts and he is mostly right on the money and I can gather that from reading his posts. If I were to read his profile I do not get that same credibilty warm and fuzzy feeling. A rpofile or if someone uses his her real name was what my post was about sorry you did not get the tounge in cheek approach. As for my sailing, 40 years, including a two year cruise with parents from 13 to 15 years of age including Europe, Azores, Carib, South America, Panama Canal and up to Alaska. Six Marion to Bermuda trips numerous yacht deliveries on both coasts plus a straigh offshore trip from Newfoundland to North Carolina in constant 25 - 30 knot winds. I don't register and don't feel a need to so RW's post struck a nerve but it was in no way meant to be a slam on RW just the concept of credibility only relating to registerd posters.
J34, there is at present a woman with about six
years of sailing experience well on her way to completing a solo circumnavigation in a 28 or 29 foot boat. Do a search for Donna Lange. Age and experience don't have to be a determining factor in defining a persons abilities and credibility. It has been said that experience is the best teacher. It has also been said that experience is the teacher of fools. I learn from experience gained by other people. There is no need for me to get shipwrecked to know that I should take every precaution posible to avoid it. Larry and Lyn Pardey have written an excellent book on storm tactics. If I should plan an off shore passage I will be prepared for storms by their experience and not have to learn everything that they have written by hard won experience.
years of sailing experience well on her way to completing a solo circumnavigation in a 28 or 29 foot boat. Do a search for Donna Lange. Age and experience don't have to be a determining factor in defining a persons abilities and credibility. It has been said that experience is the best teacher. It has also been said that experience is the teacher of fools. I learn from experience gained by other people. There is no need for me to get shipwrecked to know that I should take every precaution posible to avoid it. Larry and Lyn Pardey have written an excellent book on storm tactics. If I should plan an off shore passage I will be prepared for storms by their experience and not have to learn everything that they have written by hard won experience.
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