CG Rescue 25 Sailboat In Atlantic,NY

[seadaddler]

A 25 ft sailboat with two on board left North Carolina heading to Canadahad to be rescued in the Atlantic Ocean off the south shore of Long Island,New York.The two sailor's were hit by 10 ft waves and high winds in their 25 ftsailboat which took on water and need of help,they were on their wayfrom NC to Nova Scotia,one sailor was 67 and the other 73 both from Canada.But they were rescued by the local Coast Guard and spent the nighton land and plan to resume their trip to canada.We are getting a big storm here sunday a Nor' Easter with lot's of wind and flooding , snow maybe further north I hope they waitbefore resuming their trip. Nick

 

[Paul Akers]

I'm From SE MA...

...near RI and the CG has been out and warning ALL boats to stay in port on Sunday which affects all of the commercial fishing fleet, as well. A 25' sailboat has no business being out in those waters this weekend and especially at this time of year. They are really expecting a bad one out there!

 

[John]

Cost??

Does the Coast Guard charge these people for the cost of saving them????It can be pretty expensive, I would imagine.

 

[LancerDude]

Your tax dollars at work..

I dont think that the Coast Gaurd should charge for giving help at sea..no more so than your local Police shoould charge for coming to your home for an emergency..it's just your tax dollars at work.

 

[Ross]

In circumstances like this weekend in New England

when the Coast Guard has ordered all vessels to stay in port I think that they might levy some fines but they never charge for rescue.

 

[Anchor Down]

Who's Responsibility?

Ross,Not "ordered." "Warned." Significant difference.

 

[Ross]

Anchor down ,I bet a judge would warn the

rescued boater to listen to the coast guard warnings in future and then uphold the fines.

 

[Warren Milberg]

Anybody know

what type or model 25-footer was rescued? Experience, or lack thereof, of the crew? While most recreational 25-footers would probably not be suited for this voyage, there are some that are (i.e., PS 25, CD 25D or other small full keel heavy disp cruisers). This sounds like the typical case of small cockpit scuppers being overwhelmed by boarding seas...but I'd like to know more details if they are available. We can all learn something from events like this one.

 

[Ross]

Warren this link may help some

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,132091,00.htmlI just check the link doesn't take you to the story. I did a google news search for "coast guard rescue long island"

 

[seadaddler]

CG RESCUE

The 25 ft saiboat OUTRAGEOUS was in the atlantic ocean three miles south of Fire Island when it was hit by a rogue wave causing it to tip and take on water.Conditions were stiff winds and 10 ft waves.

 

[Colin16557]

Things happen

Before everybody pounds on these guys for being unprepared, consider where they started from: According to the original post they had left North carolina for Nova Scotia. Having sailed that coast a few times, its at least a 3 day passage from NC to Fire island, probably 4 in a 25-footer...weather changes from what's predicted when you're out that long and if you're taking the offshore direct course you might be over a hundred miles offshore when the forecast changed and the Coast Guard recommended seeking harbor: That's a full day's passage in a 25-footer so, if you're only a day away from making Buzzards Bay you might very reasonably decide to just keep on for another day, rather than spending the same amount of time diverting to port that's waaay out of your way.That said, at this time of year, storms happen and it wouldn't have been my choice to sail the direct route: Staying within 10-20 miles of shore doesn't cost all that many more miles. Also, as the Coast Guard report made clear, the should have had an EPIRB as it took three diffrent attempted distress signals to get their boat located.

 

[Bill Roosa]

Agree with Colin

You don't get to be 60+ without gaining some experience. While a 25' boat is not the size of boat I'd "go to sea" in, I have noticed that there are young women that sail around the world in them!

 

[Ross]

As someone noted earlier not all 25 footers

are created equal. As I recall Serafin was a 24 foot on deck sloop that carried the Pardeys around the world and then some.

 

[RAD]

Tommorow I'm going to see

I live close to the Coast Guard station near Fire Island inlet and I was hoping to get there today just to see what kind of boat.Tommorow will be more exciting with the weather and a good day to goof around by the beach in the car.

 

[higgs]

Interesting

There was a thread last week that dealt with licensing and many blasted government interference. I don't know if those who suggested fines on this thread also were against the govt. interfering with licensing, but this situation is the other side of the coin.I do not think anyone should be charged for rescue. Boating is a significant contributor to our economy and the industry employs many. This is the up side. The down side is that sometimes boaters get in trouble and need help. You cannot have one without the other. Was the skipper nelectful here: We need more details to know the answer.

 

[Warren Milberg]

I did a search for info

on this story and found some conflicting data re the wind/wave conditions. None of the stories stated the type of boat rescued, yet the link below shows a picture of it and its crew. From the partial logo visable on the mainsail, it would appear to be a 25-ft Hunter. If so, it certainly isn't a boat I'd choose for such a trip.....

 

[CalebD]

The Daily News article that Warren

provided a link for clearly states that the S/V Outrageous is 30' not 25'. The article also says the waves were 15' and then says 10' so go figure. I would feel better in a 30 footer than a 25 but not in those conditions. The Daily News is prone to sensationalism but maybe they just got some of the facts on this one.Seadaddler, these guys will be on LI for at least another day or two given the current weather here so you should be able to get down to their boat to see what size and make it is. Please report back your findings.Thanks.

 

[seadaddler]

Newsday

Our local paper newsday said 25 ft sailboat and 10 ft waveswas info given by the coast guardsmen who recued the boat.We are in the middle of a bad noreaster,heavy rain wind and localflooding and the next few days more rain. The sailboat was taken to fire island on the south shore oflong island which you need to take a ferry and I live on theeast end of the north shore of long island.Because of the storm they are telling people to evacuateand may close things down for a while on fire island.I guess I am happy my boat is still on the hard and notat a dock with the high wind,rain,and flooding predictedour tv is constantly flashing storm warning's. Nick

 

[Warren Milberg]

Size of boat

There certainly does seem to be some confusion as to the size of the boat involved in this event (as well as wind/wave conditions). While the text of the article I listed below states the boat to be a 30-footer, the caption in the picture in the link states the boat to be a 25-footer. If you look at the mainsail logo closely, the first number after the Hunter logo appears to be a "3" which would indicate a 30 something footer. Hard to tell the length from the pic in the article,however.

 

[David10790]

40 to 50 kt gales

are forecast for s.w. Nova Scotia tomorrow with low visibility in rain and fog. Sounds like it is just as well that they are stuck in NY for a few days. Question is why would you attempt this trip so early in the season? Why not wait until May?