Most of the centerboard problems on the 25 seem to occur when gets stuck up. I put mine down during a sail and now it won't come back up. Since I live in MN, I need to get it out of the water this week. I donned my wetsuit today (water temp around 45-50 degrees) and checked out what the problem was. It appears that the rope pendant to cable connection all of a sudden is too fat to make through the tube. I couldn't fix it during my hypothermic dive. I don't want to dive again. Does anyone have some suggestions as how to get the boat back on the trailer with the centerboard down or how to fix it without diving? The centerboard will go into the keel but the rope won't pull it up or hold it up. sPk
Centerboard stuck DOWN!
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I would wedge the centerboard in place temporarily while it is being pulled and placed on the trailer assuming that it is picked out of the water by a fork lift or crane. CVP
I would wedge the centerboard in place temporarily while it is being pulled and placed on the trailer assuming that it is picked out of the water by a fork lift or crane. CVP
Oh dear me
With a trailer, it depends on how the trailer is built. If your trailer has toggle type rollers and there is some room between the bottom of the keel and the trailer, maybe you could temporily tie a 1x8 to the trailer and slide the CB up the board and onto the trailer. With this method the line could bind between the CB and the CB trunk wall. If you can get to a sling, I'd get 15 ft. of 1/4 line whip the ends and while the boat is in the air, cut all the old stuff off, thread the new line down the tube and make a nice small knot at the CB and all is fixed. I wouldn't want to dive again either, but maybe you don't much of a choice. I hope you have a better day. Tom
With a trailer, it depends on how the trailer is built. If your trailer has toggle type rollers and there is some room between the bottom of the keel and the trailer, maybe you could temporily tie a 1x8 to the trailer and slide the CB up the board and onto the trailer. With this method the line could bind between the CB and the CB trunk wall. If you can get to a sling, I'd get 15 ft. of 1/4 line whip the ends and while the boat is in the air, cut all the old stuff off, thread the new line down the tube and make a nice small knot at the CB and all is fixed. I wouldn't want to dive again either, but maybe you don't much of a choice. I hope you have a better day. Tom
Tie it up
sPk, Run a line from both sides of the boat and pull the centerboard up into its slot, tie the line ends off securly and haul it out. good luck. John (no boat currnetly)
sPk, Run a line from both sides of the boat and pull the centerboard up into its slot, tie the line ends off securly and haul it out. good luck. John (no boat currnetly)
Order a new pendant line and shackle
Unless you're going to be able to get at the centerboard after the boat is on the trailer, after you get it home, you might just order a new pendant line with the shackle and when you get it, have the boat lifted at a local boat yard. Just attach a strong sting to the end of the pendant line from inside of the cockpit, and pull out the old pendant line at the keel, attach the new pendant line shackle to the centerboard, and tie the end of the new pendant line to the string and pull it up. Rudy at D&R Marine should have everything you need for the job.
Unless you're going to be able to get at the centerboard after the boat is on the trailer, after you get it home, you might just order a new pendant line with the shackle and when you get it, have the boat lifted at a local boat yard. Just attach a strong sting to the end of the pendant line from inside of the cockpit, and pull out the old pendant line at the keel, attach the new pendant line shackle to the centerboard, and tie the end of the new pendant line to the string and pull it up. Rudy at D&R Marine should have everything you need for the job.
c/b pendant
I want to pass along info to guys who mite need it in the future. My 1976 O'day 25 c/b pendant housing only has a half inch diameter hole from the c/b housing to the 1 inch diameter housing from the bilge up to the cockpit bulkhead. I taped my messenger to the old pendant and the tape came off and balled up into a plug. I had to cut open the housing at the bilge area to unplug it. DON'T USE TAPE. SEW IT. I sewed and taped. now I have a repair to do that has to be waterproof. I had to open up the pendant housing at a point just above the bottleneck area near the cabin floor level to pry the new pendant up thru that point. I sewed a messenger line into the new pendant starting at the waxed pointy end so the pendant and messenger would be in line with each other to avoid the pendant end trying to double over and binding. DO NOT USE TAPE TO ATTACH MESSENGER TO PENDANT. I tried that and got a wad of tape wedged that plugged the hole(half inch diameter) which is why I had to cut into the housing to free it up.
I want to pass along info to guys who mite need it in the future. My 1976 O'day 25 c/b pendant housing only has a half inch diameter hole from the c/b housing to the 1 inch diameter housing from the bilge up to the cockpit bulkhead. I taped my messenger to the old pendant and the tape came off and balled up into a plug. I had to cut open the housing at the bilge area to unplug it. DON'T USE TAPE. SEW IT. I sewed and taped. now I have a repair to do that has to be waterproof. I had to open up the pendant housing at a point just above the bottleneck area near the cabin floor level to pry the new pendant up thru that point. I sewed a messenger line into the new pendant starting at the waxed pointy end so the pendant and messenger would be in line with each other to avoid the pendant end trying to double over and binding. DO NOT USE TAPE TO ATTACH MESSENGER TO PENDANT. I tried that and got a wad of tape wedged that plugged the hole(half inch diameter) which is why I had to cut into the housing to free it up.
Had this problem with an O'Day 222
I encountered this problem (thankfully in the summer) a couple of years ago, and it was a result of the outer braid of a double braid pendant rope fraying and then bunching up as it entered the metal tube to the cockpit on the 222. Since the pendant line attaches to the trailing edge of the center board, the board would slide up into the CB trunk without any problem. However, the bunching of the pendant prevented it from being used to pull the CB all of the way into the CB trunk. Once I figured out what was going on, I realized that I could pull the boat onto the trailer and the keel platform on the trailer pushed the CB into the trunk with no problem. I'm not sure what your trailer configuration is, but I assume there is a keel support that should do the same thing, assuming the CB will slide into the trunk without jamming. You might check to see if a line, or better yet a flat nylon strap (I have a 20 ft ratcheted strap that I typically use as a tie down when transporting), passed under the boat will pull the CB into the trunk. You shouldn't need to get in the water to do that. If so, you are in business. You can either secure the CB with the strap and then pull it onto the trailer, or alternatively, let the keel support do the same thing for you. In retrospect, I probably would use the strap approach if I had to do it again just to make sure that nothing got jammed when the boat was loaded on the trailer. You may need to get it on a lift to swap out the pendant, but at the very least, you should be able to get it on the trailer without risking hypothermia. Good luck, Dave s/v Hakuna Matata O'Day 222
I encountered this problem (thankfully in the summer) a couple of years ago, and it was a result of the outer braid of a double braid pendant rope fraying and then bunching up as it entered the metal tube to the cockpit on the 222. Since the pendant line attaches to the trailing edge of the center board, the board would slide up into the CB trunk without any problem. However, the bunching of the pendant prevented it from being used to pull the CB all of the way into the CB trunk. Once I figured out what was going on, I realized that I could pull the boat onto the trailer and the keel platform on the trailer pushed the CB into the trunk with no problem. I'm not sure what your trailer configuration is, but I assume there is a keel support that should do the same thing, assuming the CB will slide into the trunk without jamming. You might check to see if a line, or better yet a flat nylon strap (I have a 20 ft ratcheted strap that I typically use as a tie down when transporting), passed under the boat will pull the CB into the trunk. You shouldn't need to get in the water to do that. If so, you are in business. You can either secure the CB with the strap and then pull it onto the trailer, or alternatively, let the keel support do the same thing for you. In retrospect, I probably would use the strap approach if I had to do it again just to make sure that nothing got jammed when the boat was loaded on the trailer. You may need to get it on a lift to swap out the pendant, but at the very least, you should be able to get it on the trailer without risking hypothermia. Good luck, Dave s/v Hakuna Matata O'Day 222
Shape of centerboard pendant tube???
The under the boat rope trick worked. I tied the centerboard up by tying a rope around the whole boat which kept the centerboard up. My boat is safely on the trailer now. Thanks for your advice. How long and what shape is the centerboard pendant tube? sPk
The under the boat rope trick worked. I tied the centerboard up by tying a rope around the whole boat which kept the centerboard up. My boat is safely on the trailer now. Thanks for your advice. How long and what shape is the centerboard pendant tube? sPk
sPK
I bought a 78 O'Day 25 CB about 6 years ago. When I bought it, it was on the trailer.. I hauled it from St.Louis to Pittsburgh. Stripped it, rebedded the whole boat, repaired the boat and was ready April 15th to launch her. Well I could not get a mooring ball. A local dealer (that I work for to make some bucks to buy the boat)asked if I would take people out in the June "GOSail" for cerebral palsy. I said no problem I will be there. I rented a transient spot for the weekend. When I backed the trailer down the ramp, the centerboard dropped between the axel and the the rear frame of the trailer. I could not get the boat on or off the trailer. I put on the mask and dove under the boat and found what was going on. I put a line from the starboard winch under the centerboard and up the the port winch. I winched the centerboard up to the point it would float off the trailer and then made a plan to repair the halyard/pennant to the centerboard.(After I got out of the water, a three foot water snake worked it's way past the boat where I had just been......) The problem was the pennant/halyard was broken. I installed an eye splice in a 1/4" piece of staset line. I dropped a messenger string with a nut attached through the tube. I tied the end of the 1/4"line to the string and pulled it up through the tube. Then dove and disconnected the old pennent/halyard and then connected the new pennant/halyard. Having the center board slung from winch to winch reduced the amount of diving I had to do to get the connection made. I hope that helped. We have no crane/sling capabilities where we are, so it had to be done in the water. r.w.landau
I bought a 78 O'Day 25 CB about 6 years ago. When I bought it, it was on the trailer.. I hauled it from St.Louis to Pittsburgh. Stripped it, rebedded the whole boat, repaired the boat and was ready April 15th to launch her. Well I could not get a mooring ball. A local dealer (that I work for to make some bucks to buy the boat)asked if I would take people out in the June "GOSail" for cerebral palsy. I said no problem I will be there. I rented a transient spot for the weekend. When I backed the trailer down the ramp, the centerboard dropped between the axel and the the rear frame of the trailer. I could not get the boat on or off the trailer. I put on the mask and dove under the boat and found what was going on. I put a line from the starboard winch under the centerboard and up the the port winch. I winched the centerboard up to the point it would float off the trailer and then made a plan to repair the halyard/pennant to the centerboard.(After I got out of the water, a three foot water snake worked it's way past the boat where I had just been......) The problem was the pennant/halyard was broken. I installed an eye splice in a 1/4" piece of staset line. I dropped a messenger string with a nut attached through the tube. I tied the end of the 1/4"line to the string and pulled it up through the tube. Then dove and disconnected the old pennent/halyard and then connected the new pennant/halyard. Having the center board slung from winch to winch reduced the amount of diving I had to do to get the connection made. I hope that helped. We have no crane/sling capabilities where we are, so it had to be done in the water. r.w.landau
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