I NEED TO CHANGE MY CENTERBOARD PENDANTON MY 222. I DOVE UNDER THE BOAT AND FELT THE BOARD AND IT FELLS LIKE THE TOP OF THE BOARD WHERE THE PENDANT WAS ATTACHED HAS BROKEN. I AM HAVING THE BOAT LIFTED, BUT I AM AFRAID I WILL FIND THAT THE OLD PENDANT IS JAMMED UP INTO THE PULLEY INSIDE THE KEEL.CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A SUGGESTION OF HOW TO PROCEED IF THIS IS THE CASE.ALSO, CAN I SIMPLY DRILL A NEW HOLE IN THE BOARD IF IT HAS CRACKED WHERE THE ORIGINAL HOLE WAS? THANKS
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222 centerboard
Jack,
If you plan to pull your boat out to replace your pendant line, you may as well buy a new pendant line first and have it on hand just in case the hole in the centerboard is intact. It’s only a ¼” hole and it may be OK. Just tie a long string to the end of your pendant line in the cockpit, and use a coat hanger to reach up in the keel slot to retrieve the shackle and pull the old pendant line out. Then all you have to do is tie the new pendant line to the string from below and pull it up with the string. There’s a single sheave up in the keel slot that the pendant line goes through. If by some chance your centerboard is damaged, a quick fix isn’t advisable. One of the guys on the forum had a large chunk missing on his 222 centerboard. He had his boat lifted, removed the centerboard himself, and had the boatyard put the boat back in the water. He used the boat for the rest of the season without the centerboard. The centerboard sat by his furnace for the rest of the season to dry out completely, and he reconstructed it with fiberglass later on. If you choose to go the same route that he did, you may need to have an impact screw driver, a fish fillet knife for cutting the caulking around the wedges, and a putty knife. I’m thinking that the shackle pin may have fallen out. If you know of anyone who does SCUBA diving, you could have him dive under with a coat hanger wire and hook the shackle. Have a strong twine hooked to the end of your pendant line with enough line on it so that you can bring the old pendant line up into the boat to look at it. If the small rigging pin is missing you can replace it on the spot and you’ll be back in business in no time at all. I removed my centerboard this past spring and bottom painted it along with the inside keel slot. Two of the four ¼” Philips head bolts were stubborn, but I was able to remove them with the aid of an impact driver. If you need some pics of any of this, Email me and I’ll send them to you. Sailtrinkka1986@verizon.net Good luck with this.
Joe
Jack,
If you plan to pull your boat out to replace your pendant line, you may as well buy a new pendant line first and have it on hand just in case the hole in the centerboard is intact. It’s only a ¼” hole and it may be OK. Just tie a long string to the end of your pendant line in the cockpit, and use a coat hanger to reach up in the keel slot to retrieve the shackle and pull the old pendant line out. Then all you have to do is tie the new pendant line to the string from below and pull it up with the string. There’s a single sheave up in the keel slot that the pendant line goes through. If by some chance your centerboard is damaged, a quick fix isn’t advisable. One of the guys on the forum had a large chunk missing on his 222 centerboard. He had his boat lifted, removed the centerboard himself, and had the boatyard put the boat back in the water. He used the boat for the rest of the season without the centerboard. The centerboard sat by his furnace for the rest of the season to dry out completely, and he reconstructed it with fiberglass later on. If you choose to go the same route that he did, you may need to have an impact screw driver, a fish fillet knife for cutting the caulking around the wedges, and a putty knife. I’m thinking that the shackle pin may have fallen out. If you know of anyone who does SCUBA diving, you could have him dive under with a coat hanger wire and hook the shackle. Have a strong twine hooked to the end of your pendant line with enough line on it so that you can bring the old pendant line up into the boat to look at it. If the small rigging pin is missing you can replace it on the spot and you’ll be back in business in no time at all. I removed my centerboard this past spring and bottom painted it along with the inside keel slot. Two of the four ¼” Philips head bolts were stubborn, but I was able to remove them with the aid of an impact driver. If you need some pics of any of this, Email me and I’ll send them to you. Sailtrinkka1986@verizon.net Good luck with this.
Joe
Missing Chunk
I believe you will find that the 222 centerboard is notched with a V. I thought the same thing. Bought a new pendent from D&R and had her back in the water in an hour or so. I do need to check this year as the new pendent has a really thin shackle (if that is the appropriate word) set up.
Larry,
I noticed that you have a 1984 O'Day 222 and I don't doubt that they built the centerboards with that notch in them. They may have made some kind of a change in the centerboard slot in 1986 when they built mine. It could be the small recess up inside the slot where the sheave for the pendant line is located. I don't know, as my board doesn't have that notch in it. I have a question about your 84 if Jack doesn't mind. I don't want to appear to hijack his thread. Do you have a tension bar inside the cabin for holding your mast? Mine is mounted on a post next to my galley cabinet, and it goes up on an angle and connects to two bolts holding the tabernacle. Here's a picture of it.
Joe
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No I do not have a tention bar under mast step on my 1984 222. Just the post at the gally which is a little aft of th mast strep.
Joe
No I do not have a tention bar under mast step on my 1984 222. Just the post at the gally which is a little aft of th mast strep.
I kind of figured that to be the case. They didn't mount them on any of the 1984s, I guess. You should make one up Larry and install it on the post to the two bolts of your tabernacle. Here's a sketch of mine. It's only 1" stainless steel pipe with a flat flange on one end with two holes. The other end is flattened out where it attach's' to the post. I have a stainless steel Tabernacle hinge on my boat that I installed myself which has a wider bolt pattern than my old cast aluminum tabernacle that came stock with my boat. So I had use two extra bolts for the tension bar flange to accomodate the hole spacing of the flange. I gave Rudy Nickerson of D & R Marine the sketch of the tension bar along with the pics. a few years ago. He wanted to have some tension bars made up, but I don't know if he ever did.
Joe
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Joe -
I don't have one of those tension bars on my 85 222 either and I don't recall ever seeing one in any of the pictures I have seen of 222's? When were these installed, and was there a problem with support that they were trying to address? Fill me in on this.
Thanks,
Dave
O'Day 222
I don't have one of those tension bars on my 85 222 either and I don't recall ever seeing one in any of the pictures I have seen of 222's? When were these installed, and was there a problem with support that they were trying to address? Fill me in on this.
Thanks,
Dave
O'Day 222
Hi Dave,
I thought it was just the 84s that didn't have these tension bars. They must have started putting them in when they built the 86s. I really think that they are needed. I've seen pictures of a 1984 OD 222 with stress cracks on top of the cabin. The owner later installed a spar in the cabin under the mast from the floor. I think that the bar is just as effective and doesn't limit the V berth area. It's also pretty much out of the way in that small area. I'll send you some pics that this guy sent me of this boat, Dave.
Joe
The archives had a thread about the after-production installation of the tension bars on the 222. As I understand it, adding the brace was a factory modification started in early to mid 1985 - and done in response to feedback that the rigging tension could not be maintained due to the cabin roof flexing under stress . This means 1984- model-year- and early-year-1985 boats would not have had compression/ tension bars installed at the time of production.
compression/tension bar ODay 222; search results "compression", "ODay Owner", "messages", "title"
Search the archives with the term "compression", model "222", in the "Oday Owners" forum, and search "title" and "message" . The results of this search provide reasoning and background for adding the compression bar to the 222.
in order to have one made wouldn't you need to know the angle of the plate to the bar? i don't see that on the sketch or is it bolted at the top so the angle can be adjusted?
I'll try to get that angle and post it. I think that the sketch is the exact angle. I remember using my bevel to transfer the angle to the paper, when I sketched it out. It's approximately 40 degrees give or take. Right now I'm nursing a stiff neck and can't do much of anything. I think that I'll be going into the boat in a couple of days to get my mattresses and bring them in the house. I'll get the angle then. I know that Rudy has gotten a few calls for these tension bars. The guys who own these boats want them and are willing to have them made.
Joe
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