I just launched my H240 for the year and when I attached the top of the CDI Furler to the mast I noticed 1 of the 19 strands of wire was broken. Whats the best way to replace that? Does the original forestay run through the furler so I only need to buy a forestay from this site or is the forestay integral to the furler and I need a new furler. Is this an easy repair that any dumb newbie can do or does this require hiring a rigger. How close to failure of the rig does one broken strand put me?
CDI Furler Forestay
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replace the for stay or it will soon tell you you should have replaced it ..the message will look like this...... the mast lying in the water and stray cables everywhere...this is definitely one of those times ...a stitch in time saves nine or maybe even your life ...mother nature can be a crabby old heifer when you least expect it
I just ordered a new forestay cable from Rigging and Hardware . Com was very easy and pain free. Good guys to deal with. I just measured what I needed and called in the order. It arrived three days later. FYI when they ask you the Finish they are asking for the finished length. If you tell them shiny like I did it will leave them rolling on the floor laughing!!!
You will have to drop your mask in order to remove the filler from the first day and then remove the for stay from the mast. You will want to measure from the center of the PIN to the end of the threads on the stud.
I would definitely replace that before I sailed the boat again. Ours was only $60 with shipping. Pretty minimal expense in the overall scheme of things
Sam
You will have to drop your mask in order to remove the filler from the first day and then remove the for stay from the mast. You will want to measure from the center of the PIN to the end of the threads on the stud.
I would definitely replace that before I sailed the boat again. Ours was only $60 with shipping. Pretty minimal expense in the overall scheme of things
Sam
Yes, definitely replace the forestay. There may not be a need to replace the CDI foil as the forestay runs through it. I installed a CDI FF2 on my Macgregor 26S. If there is enough length to your foil, set it up so the halyard top fitting spins on the shaft of the swage eye, instead of on the cable itself, which will cause stress and wear. I've seem pictures of installations with broken forestay strands where the halyard top fitting spins directly on the cable, because the foil was cut too short. This in my opinion is a big installation mistake, causing unnecessary wear on the forestay. I think this is important enough that if it were my boat and the foil was cut too short to not allow the halyard top fitting to spin on the swage eye, I would get a new foil. Otherwise you likely will have the same problem again. CDI provides really good customer service, if needed, you could give them a call and see if they would sell you just the foil.
Here's a picture of mine where you can see the swage eye shaft inside the halyard top fitting.
Here's a picture of mine where you can see the swage eye shaft inside the halyard top fitting.
caribb;
Seco south in tampa made the rigging but you can order it from the forum store. As warned, one broken strand will result in eventual failure if not tearing of sails and hands. As for the furler, it runs thru the furler and we can help you take that apart and put it back together.
Seco south in tampa made the rigging but you can order it from the forum store. As warned, one broken strand will result in eventual failure if not tearing of sails and hands. As for the furler, it runs thru the furler and we can help you take that apart and put it back together.
I found the forestay here at the forum store(absolutely love the forum store) and will place my order tonight for a new forestay. After looking at my furler today I know I will need all the help I can get from you.
CDI does not recommend this, indeed they instruct you to measure and cut so the top fitting is on the wire and not the swage.
I do see the diagram CDI provides depicts the Halyard top fitting below the swage on the wire, and I see the quote below.
"Cut the top end of the luff so that the total length of the luff is 12.25" less than the pin-to-pin length."
But it seems to me it's better if the top fitting spins on the swage shaft as apposed to the wire itself. I certainly might be wrong, but it worked well for me.
Cool, your boat. I just would not in general recommend something that is in direct contravention to manufacture published procedure.
Just how difficult of a repair is this going to be. Is it something I should consider hiring a rigger for?
If you step the mast you can handle this repair. You can download the pdf directions for the furler. Just drop the mast, remove the furler, measure your forestay and order a new one. When it arrives install it and then re install the furler. It will help to have a helper and fish tape to help guide the new forestay down the inside of the foil. Should take you a hour or so if you have all the pieces ready to go.
Sam
Sam
Yes the black one is for the headsail, but the CDI has an internal halyard. The green one is to hoist the zip on sail cover for the furled genoa. They have nothing to do with the CDI. I would usually hook the black one to the bow pulpit for added security.
Oh, and the black one is used to connect to the mast raising system gin pole.
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I haven't even begun the repair and I am already in trouble. I placed an order here at the forum store for a forestay and they need to know the information on the manufacturers ID tag located near the base of the mast. I can't find any tag at all. They said it should read z-spar or z- diffusion but let them know if it says something else. Could it be on the bottom of the mast(yes I still have the mast up). If I can't find the tag is there anyway to know what I have?
Z spar is the same as U. S. Spars in Gainesville, FL but this site store can get those parts for you. Even a member on the store staff knows them all too well. Also follow Jackdaw's suggestion. It is obvious you do not know everything and before you go any further, maybe a direct conversation with a rigger is in order. Like someone also said, that furler has it own internal jib halyard and with a sunbrella cover on the jib, there is no need for the other cover or whatever there is.
As for the bale in the mast, use it for something else say for a future spinnaker. Spend a little and be safe. I introduced CDI to Hunter.
As for the bale in the mast, use it for something else say for a future spinnaker. Spend a little and be safe. I introduced CDI to Hunter.
Did you add the forestay from the general store rigging page or from the 240 specific page?
I had a look via the model specific forestay and only got the one part number and no request for the tag. If your not having any luck give the sailboat owners store a call directly and I'm sure they will be able to help you out.
I had a look via the model specific forestay and only got the one part number and no request for the tag. If your not having any luck give the sailboat owners store a call directly and I'm sure they will be able to help you out.
The store actually called me last night and they are working with me to get the correct forestay. I can't speak highly enough about their customer service.