Has anyone ever tried to install "catbird seats" on the stern rail of their Catalina 22? If so, how did you do it? Thanks!
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Catalina 22 stability in high wind
I am fairly new to sailing and recently purchased a 1983 Catalina 22. I enjoy pushing her to the hilt but I am not sure where the hilt is on this boat. My question is...at what angle of heel should I become concerned about a possible knockdown or capsize? I know the boat sails it's fastest at approx. 15 degrees but I just want to know how much safety margin I have when the wind kicks up. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
I am fairly new to sailing and recently purchased a 1983 Catalina 22. I enjoy pushing her to the hilt but I am not sure where the hilt is on this boat. My question is...at what angle of heel should I become concerned about a possible knockdown or capsize? I know the boat sails it's fastest at approx. 15 degrees but I just want to know how much safety margin I have when the wind kicks up. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
Catalina 22 heel
I am fairly new to sailing and recently purchased a 1983 Catalina 22. I enjoy pushing her to the hilt but I am not sure where the hilt is on this boat. My question is...at what angle of heel should I become concerned about a possible knockdown or capsize? I know the boat sails it's fastest at approx. 15 degrees but I just want to know how much safety margin I have when the wind kicks up. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
I am fairly new to sailing and recently purchased a 1983 Catalina 22. I enjoy pushing her to the hilt but I am not sure where the hilt is on this boat. My question is...at what angle of heel should I become concerned about a possible knockdown or capsize? I know the boat sails it's fastest at approx. 15 degrees but I just want to know how much safety margin I have when the wind kicks up. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
C-22 edge
The edge is directly proportional to the butthole pucker factor. When you find one, you'll find the other, and vice versa.
The edge is directly proportional to the butthole pucker factor. When you find one, you'll find the other, and vice versa.
Stern Rail Seats
After trying to decipher the thread from this discussion I deciced to drink a 6 pack and guess at the question. If you are looking for stern rail seats for your Cat 22 try http://www.sail2000.com They have a set of seats that are VERY easy to install and well made. As far as the heeling at the "hilt", I hope you know how to reef quickly!
After trying to decipher the thread from this discussion I deciced to drink a 6 pack and guess at the question. If you are looking for stern rail seats for your Cat 22 try http://www.sail2000.com They have a set of seats that are VERY easy to install and well made. As far as the heeling at the "hilt", I hope you know how to reef quickly!
Well now!!!!!!
Hi, I can't help but just fall out laughing at Larry's reply from Long Beach. It would take another west coaster to come up with that , and for the most part he's right !!! LOL
It all depends on you !!!!, and how much you want to live on the edge and what your nerves can stand. I know what kind of storms that can all of a sudden come up on the Great Lakes and surrounding smaller lakes in Michigan, and sailing there isn't too much different than where you are, but it does differ from East Coast to West Coast. What I would do for safety's sake is know that for all intent and purpose the 22 is a very forgiving boat if you are above the just starting out category of sailor. If you are just starting out then know this, that when you get lets say a gust of wind that comes out of no-where. get ready to let the mainsheet go. It has been my experience that if you get into a situation you feel is beyond your control the easiest way to stop a roll over is let the mainsheet go and steer directly into the wind and reef the main and if you have roller furling take in the jib until you are secure in the fact you are not about to do a 180 or 360. Although I don't think there are many of us 22 Cat sailors that have really had that kind of a problem. When in doubt REEF the Main and bring in or down the JIB. Turning directly into the wind will stop you at almost dead in your tracks. Now the sails will sound like they will beat you to death at this point but don't let that worry you, it's just noise. Reef the sails in until you can provide for the 15 degrees you mentioned on a continous basis. It may also mean that you might have to sheet in and release the main constantly until you reach safety or the condition changes. No sailing to the hilt with the rail down in the water on a Cat 22 ever interested me, but then we do have all kinds of sailors out there and over 11,000 22's still alive and doing quite well. Hope this helps Dave LaPere
Hi, I can't help but just fall out laughing at Larry's reply from Long Beach. It would take another west coaster to come up with that , and for the most part he's right !!! LOL
It all depends on you !!!!, and how much you want to live on the edge and what your nerves can stand. I know what kind of storms that can all of a sudden come up on the Great Lakes and surrounding smaller lakes in Michigan, and sailing there isn't too much different than where you are, but it does differ from East Coast to West Coast. What I would do for safety's sake is know that for all intent and purpose the 22 is a very forgiving boat if you are above the just starting out category of sailor. If you are just starting out then know this, that when you get lets say a gust of wind that comes out of no-where. get ready to let the mainsheet go. It has been my experience that if you get into a situation you feel is beyond your control the easiest way to stop a roll over is let the mainsheet go and steer directly into the wind and reef the main and if you have roller furling take in the jib until you are secure in the fact you are not about to do a 180 or 360. Although I don't think there are many of us 22 Cat sailors that have really had that kind of a problem. When in doubt REEF the Main and bring in or down the JIB. Turning directly into the wind will stop you at almost dead in your tracks. Now the sails will sound like they will beat you to death at this point but don't let that worry you, it's just noise. Reef the sails in until you can provide for the 15 degrees you mentioned on a continous basis. It may also mean that you might have to sheet in and release the main constantly until you reach safety or the condition changes. No sailing to the hilt with the rail down in the water on a Cat 22 ever interested me, but then we do have all kinds of sailors out there and over 11,000 22's still alive and doing quite well. Hope this helps Dave LaPereCatbird seats and heavy weather sailing
I love those seats but my boat has no rails so I just sit on a couple os through cushions! As to sailing a C22 on a windy day. Take the main down and secure it, then just sail on the working jib. My boat is a swing keel and has little or no weather helm when sailing in heavy air with just a working jib or 150 "Lapper". Even a reefed main in a blow will impart a lot of weather helm that will enjoyed only by a "Johnny Atlas" which I ain't ! Even with the jib alone the C22 will out point most everything on the lake not having a motor.
I love those seats but my boat has no rails so I just sit on a couple os through cushions! As to sailing a C22 on a windy day. Take the main down and secure it, then just sail on the working jib. My boat is a swing keel and has little or no weather helm when sailing in heavy air with just a working jib or 150 "Lapper". Even a reefed main in a blow will impart a lot of weather helm that will enjoyed only by a "Johnny Atlas" which I ain't ! Even with the jib alone the C22 will out point most everything on the lake not having a motor.
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