Catalina 310 rig tuning

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MarkZ

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Nov 5, 2005
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Hunter 49 Green Turtle Bay: Ky
The mast on my C310 is bent slightly forward from the top spreader to the top. The only way I've been able to get this bend out is by tightening the forward lower shrouds. This doesn't seem right though because the boat manual says that the lower shrouds should not be tight, unlike the uppers. They should be taut, but not tight. I tried loosening the headstay some to see if that would help, but to no avail. Is it possible that the upper shrouds are too tight and can be causing the bend?
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
As I recall, Catalina usually has a rig tuning

guide in the boat manual for each boat. I would also suggest an archive search on this site, and Google mast tuning for sailboats - there's tons of material already out there. For our C34s, and our extensive website, I do not recall much discussion over the past nine years that I've been involved that discusses rig tuning because it's a basic operation that once understood is not boat-size-specific. You've got the right approach by first loosening the forestay, but the next step would be to tighten the backstay before dealing with the lowers. The uppers shouldn't impact the situation you've described. If you read: http://www.sailboatowners.com/forums/pviewall.tpl?&fno=499.154&uid=73200280089&sku=2007017002057.90, it's about a C310 and one respondent offered to help tune the mast. Try that link and see if he will help you.
 
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Bill

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My C350 had a forward bend to it. One would of thought that between the dealer's rigging and the time I paid the marina to tune the rigging one spring, someone would of gotten it right. This past year I figured I would do it myself seeing that it was evidently to complicated for the professionals to properly handle. Come to find out the back stays were to long and I had to get them cut in order to get rid of the negative twist.
 

Jon W.

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May 18, 2004
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Catalina 310 C310 Seattle Wa
The forward mast BEND

My boat has the same slight forward bend from the upper spreader to the mast top. This can be seen when sighting up the front of the mast. The mast itself is raked back so that a weight suspended from the mainsail halyard hangs about 2-3 inches behind the past at the gooseneck, which is good. The bend in the mast has been there since day one. It looks to be maybe an inch or two, but it's hard to tell for sure. I haven't been able to get a straight edge on it, Ha Ha. It is not noticeable unless I sight straight up the mast from the front or rear. It almost looks like an optical illusion, but I don't think it is. Until now, I haven't heard of any other C310 with this condition. I wonder how many people would even notice? It's hard to imagine what is causing the bend. The shroulds should not be appling any fore or aft pressure on the mast, only side force. I would think that if the forestay or backstay was too short, then the whole mast would just tilt, not bend. Why just at the upper spreader? I usually have the fore and aft stay's set loose anyway, so they should not be contributing to the bend. I've done a lot of tuning on the mast, starting at ground zero, and have not been able to totally eliminate the bend. I have worked through the standard tuning procedures, settling on shroud tensions at 10-12% of wire strength. I have the forward and aft lowers tight, but not as tight as the uppers. The forward lowers are tighter than the aft lowers. If the lower shrouds are set just taught, they seem to have too much slack under sail, so I have them around 8% of wire strength. Checking under sail shows the shrouds just starting to go slack in about 15-18 knots of wind. I normally keep the backstay (and forestay) on the loose side. I have a backstay adjuster, that when tightened up hard does seem to reduce slightly, or even eliminate the bend in the mast . At the dock, the weight on the main halyard is about 4-5 inches behind the gooseneck with the backstay on tight. So rake is increased an inch or two. I've done a lot of research on this issue and have not found a logical reason for the bend, especially because of the location it's at. Also because of the location, I have not found a way to apply a correction. The lowers have a limited effect on the bend because they apply force at the lower speaders, not the upper speaders where the bend starts. I did solicit an opinion from Brion Toss, the rigger, at his website. His only idea was that maybe the mast itself had been bent at some point before it was stepped. I finaly decided to just get used to it. It doesn't seem to have any practical effect, and hasn't gotten any worse. I wish it wasn't there, but it seems to be fine.
 

MarkZ

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Nov 5, 2005
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Hunter 49 Green Turtle Bay: Ky
I'll try adjusting the upper shrouds

I've read some more articles about mast tuning and it sounds like it's possible that the upper shrouds are too tight. I talked to a guy at Catalina that suggested this too. When I get back to my boat in the spring I'm going to loosen everthing and start start tuning from scratch. While it's all loose I'll look up the mast to make sure there is not a bend in the extrusion. If the mast is not bent, then I'll watch it closely while tighting the rigging to be sure I don't induce the bend again.
 
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