A local deal just listed a 2005 wing keel Cat 22 with 4hp engine $19995....I am a current Hobie Getaway owner and crew on Sonar 23's...I am looking for a bigger boat that I can take the family out on (cant take the 1yr old on the hobie!!) I'd be able to keep her in a slip and yard storage for the winters.....looks like this boat would suit our needs perfectly (I could afford a bigger boat, but dont need it) I would like to sell my Getaway first...is the Cat 22 a good boat? Appears realitivly mtnce free (I know, its a boat.....) any one have any pros/cons...would be sailing in in protective salt water bay (Peconic Bay-eastern Long Island)
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Just Sold my Hobie
After owning and loving both a C-22 and a H-16 for four years, I finally sold my Hobie because I wasn't sailing it. I love to sail from the trap wire and go fast, but one can do so much more on the Catalina. My boat is a 1985; she is a great camper/sailor. A C-22 is the best choice for this size of boat, because, we have a strong association, which supports both cruising and racing. David
After owning and loving both a C-22 and a H-16 for four years, I finally sold my Hobie because I wasn't sailing it. I love to sail from the trap wire and go fast, but one can do so much more on the Catalina. My boat is a 1985; she is a great camper/sailor. A C-22 is the best choice for this size of boat, because, we have a strong association, which supports both cruising and racing. David
C-22 and Hobie 16
Finzz: We have a C-22 and a Hobie 16 too. We have had our C-22 since 1980 and still thoroughly enjoy using it. I remember when my son was one year old and learning to walk in the cockpit of our boat. I keep a photo of him when he was one with my wife at the bow pulpit on my desk. If your starting a family I think you will really enjoy using your C-22. We sail on the Chesapeake and sail it almost every nice weekend in the summer, and cruise it for a week each summer with a fleet from Annapolis. It's a great little family boat. If you can find other C-22s to sail with it's even more fun. My son is now 21 and a friend of mine gave him an old Hobie 16 which really needed quite a bit of work. We finally got the trailer back together which took months. He then had the trampoline repaired by replacing the straps, and we replaced all of the lines including those on the trampoline. We had to check every single screw on the boat. We only got to sail the Hobie twice so far, on little state park lakes. It was nice, but I think that it may be more limited in the days that you can use it, especially if you are going to take your one year old on the boat. It could either be too windy, or not windy enough. One more thing I just remembered. We had sort of a play pen on our boat when my boys were little. We had netting that was rigged using a piece of plastic pipe with 1/8th inch rope on each end. One end was tied to the teak spindle near the "V" berth, and the other end was tied to a little eye on the teak on the port side hatchway. The bottom of the netting was tucked under the cushions on the port side. In the morning my son would climb over the cushion and into the "V" berth. Another thing I remember is that 25 years ago our C-22 had the lights that it came with and an AM FM cassette stereo. With my sons we currently sail with 2 GPSs, a laptop computer with navigation software, an inverter, a fixed and handheld VHF, an autopilot, and other electronic stuff I probably don't even know about. We probably have more wire burried in our boat than running rigging. I hope your family enjoys your C-22 as much as we have enjoyed ours. Aldo
Finzz: We have a C-22 and a Hobie 16 too. We have had our C-22 since 1980 and still thoroughly enjoy using it. I remember when my son was one year old and learning to walk in the cockpit of our boat. I keep a photo of him when he was one with my wife at the bow pulpit on my desk. If your starting a family I think you will really enjoy using your C-22. We sail on the Chesapeake and sail it almost every nice weekend in the summer, and cruise it for a week each summer with a fleet from Annapolis. It's a great little family boat. If you can find other C-22s to sail with it's even more fun. My son is now 21 and a friend of mine gave him an old Hobie 16 which really needed quite a bit of work. We finally got the trailer back together which took months. He then had the trampoline repaired by replacing the straps, and we replaced all of the lines including those on the trampoline. We had to check every single screw on the boat. We only got to sail the Hobie twice so far, on little state park lakes. It was nice, but I think that it may be more limited in the days that you can use it, especially if you are going to take your one year old on the boat. It could either be too windy, or not windy enough. One more thing I just remembered. We had sort of a play pen on our boat when my boys were little. We had netting that was rigged using a piece of plastic pipe with 1/8th inch rope on each end. One end was tied to the teak spindle near the "V" berth, and the other end was tied to a little eye on the teak on the port side hatchway. The bottom of the netting was tucked under the cushions on the port side. In the morning my son would climb over the cushion and into the "V" berth. Another thing I remember is that 25 years ago our C-22 had the lights that it came with and an AM FM cassette stereo. With my sons we currently sail with 2 GPSs, a laptop computer with navigation software, an inverter, a fixed and handheld VHF, an autopilot, and other electronic stuff I probably don't even know about. We probably have more wire burried in our boat than running rigging. I hope your family enjoys your C-22 as much as we have enjoyed ours. Aldo
4 HP may be a little small
Finzz: Depending on where you are going to use your boat, a 4 HP motor could be a little small. We use an old 2 stroke 6 HP Johnson outboard motor and can push the boat at around 6 knots, according to the GPS. We once borrowed a 5 HP Honda motor, (a motor I don't recommend because of it's excessive weight), and our top speed was reduced to around 5 knots. I think that if you are in open water with wind and waves and your family, you will probably want more than a 4 HP motor. You don't want to go too big either, or you will be carrying too much weight on the stern, not the place where you want to carry it. I don't actually know what the perfect motor currently is for a C-22. Also, even though our motor is old, it has a separate fuel tank which I feel is really a great advantage. Some sailors that we have sailed with have little motors that have self-contained fuel tanks. Self-contained is fine for a dinghy motor, but on a C-22 not used on a lake, I recommend a separate fuel tank. It wouldn't be any fun trying to refill a motor with a gas can while you are trying to motor somewhere. There were times in the summer when the wind died on the Chesapeake, and we had to motor our boat for 35 miles. Aldo
Finzz: Depending on where you are going to use your boat, a 4 HP motor could be a little small. We use an old 2 stroke 6 HP Johnson outboard motor and can push the boat at around 6 knots, according to the GPS. We once borrowed a 5 HP Honda motor, (a motor I don't recommend because of it's excessive weight), and our top speed was reduced to around 5 knots. I think that if you are in open water with wind and waves and your family, you will probably want more than a 4 HP motor. You don't want to go too big either, or you will be carrying too much weight on the stern, not the place where you want to carry it. I don't actually know what the perfect motor currently is for a C-22. Also, even though our motor is old, it has a separate fuel tank which I feel is really a great advantage. Some sailors that we have sailed with have little motors that have self-contained fuel tanks. Self-contained is fine for a dinghy motor, but on a C-22 not used on a lake, I recommend a separate fuel tank. It wouldn't be any fun trying to refill a motor with a gas can while you are trying to motor somewhere. There were times in the summer when the wind died on the Chesapeake, and we had to motor our boat for 35 miles. Aldo
thanks
Thanks all, I appreciate the input...I have a wife who enjoys sailing, a 4 yr old who loves looking for pirates and mermaids and the 1.5 yr old.....the hobie is great and I can take the 4 yr old, but either my wife has to stay on the beach with the little one, or we have to find someone to watch her....the cat would be a nice way to have everyone on board and a few friends.... I have a 2001 Hobie Getaway (boomless main for saftey, fore and aft tramps, wing seats, trailer, trapeze, righting bag, rotomolded hull (not fiberglass) let me know if you have anyone interested...matt@scicom-inc.com
Thanks all, I appreciate the input...I have a wife who enjoys sailing, a 4 yr old who loves looking for pirates and mermaids and the 1.5 yr old.....the hobie is great and I can take the 4 yr old, but either my wife has to stay on the beach with the little one, or we have to find someone to watch her....the cat would be a nice way to have everyone on board and a few friends.... I have a 2001 Hobie Getaway (boomless main for saftey, fore and aft tramps, wing seats, trailer, trapeze, righting bag, rotomolded hull (not fiberglass) let me know if you have anyone interested...matt@scicom-inc.com
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