Just recently bought a Crysler 22 sailboat. Tried to raise the mast using home made bridles - it doesn't go higher than about 45 degree angle. Posted some pictures, the link is attached. Thanks.
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Dan McGuire
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As good as the pictures are, I am having trouble understanding the geometry. The line which is extremely tight, is that a port shroud? Where is the starboard shroud? Has there been any changes in the rigging since the last time it was raised?
As good as the pictures are, I am having trouble understanding the geometry. The line which is extremely tight, is that a port shroud? Where is the starboard shroud? Has there been any changes in the rigging since the last time it was raised?
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Don Evans
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Dimitri, O'Day has the same set up using the boom as the lever arm and a hinged mast plate. That one port shroud should not be tight. Everything has to be the same length or it pinches itself. Loosen the port/mast steadying shroud and slightly tighten the starboard one. These steadying shrouds are too keep the mast from swinging while it's being lifted and have nothing to do with the geometry of the lift and so don't need to be tight. Use the turnbuckles to loosen them. Good luck. Don
Dimitri, O'Day has the same set up using the boom as the lever arm and a hinged mast plate. That one port shroud should not be tight. Everything has to be the same length or it pinches itself. Loosen the port/mast steadying shroud and slightly tighten the starboard one. These steadying shrouds are too keep the mast from swinging while it's being lifted and have nothing to do with the geometry of the lift and so don't need to be tight. Use the turnbuckles to loosen them. Good luck. Don
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Alberto Marty
Can't raise the mast.
The tube you are using in front of the mast(a spinnaker pole maybe) is too long. The length of this pole should be less than the distance from the mast to the pulpit so that it will be possible to lower it to the front deck on a horizontal position when the mast is fully raised.
The tube you are using in front of the mast(a spinnaker pole maybe) is too long. The length of this pole should be less than the distance from the mast to the pulpit so that it will be possible to lower it to the front deck on a horizontal position when the mast is fully raised.
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Dmitri Denissov
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The mast raising rigging was never used before. I made it by myself. It "should" be similar to one that manufacturer recommends. All corresponding port and starboard wire lines are the same in length. When I start pulling, everything goes well. The bridles restrain the mast from swinging and they are not tight. Then the port shroud becomes very tight. Looks like all pulling force goes there. The force even unbent the port side turnbuckle eyes /visible on one of the bottom pictures/. The mast itself goes to the starboard side /the front view of the boat/. If I unscrew the portside turnbuckle to release the line, the mast goes to the starboard side even more. A puzzle… The next weekend I’ll try to use extended turnbuckles. Maybe I would be able to adjust the lines
The mast raising rigging was never used before. I made it by myself. It "should" be similar to one that manufacturer recommends. All corresponding port and starboard wire lines are the same in length. When I start pulling, everything goes well. The bridles restrain the mast from swinging and they are not tight. Then the port shroud becomes very tight. Looks like all pulling force goes there. The force even unbent the port side turnbuckle eyes /visible on one of the bottom pictures/. The mast itself goes to the starboard side /the front view of the boat/. If I unscrew the portside turnbuckle to release the line, the mast goes to the starboard side even more. A puzzle… The next weekend I’ll try to use extended turnbuckles. Maybe I would be able to adjust the lines
Port shroud T-ball may be caught
The T-ball fitting at the upper end of the lower port shroud looks like it may be caught in its hole in the mast below the spreader. It should be hanging almost straight down. Also, check the foot of the mast to make sure it's in the right posistion. It may be wedged a little higher than it should be, which makes the mast a little taller and the rigging a little tighter. Finally, if the bridle (not the shroud) on the port side is tight, you should probably loosen it. The way it looks in the photo, that line will tighten as the mast is raised. That may be working against you. I hope I helped. Peter H23 "Raven"
The T-ball fitting at the upper end of the lower port shroud looks like it may be caught in its hole in the mast below the spreader. It should be hanging almost straight down. Also, check the foot of the mast to make sure it's in the right posistion. It may be wedged a little higher than it should be, which makes the mast a little taller and the rigging a little tighter. Finally, if the bridle (not the shroud) on the port side is tight, you should probably loosen it. The way it looks in the photo, that line will tighten as the mast is raised. That may be working against you. I hope I helped. Peter H23 "Raven"
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Augie Byllott
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tom
how heavy is the mast??
With my Macgregor 26 I could just raise the mast by hand and have my wife secure the fore stay. For safety we rigged a couple of pulleys that pulled on the stay but it mostly helped while lowering the mast. Whenever there was trouble it was always something catching and we would look around until we found what was catching. Usually it was the back stay catching on the outboard bracket or a shroud catching on the trailer. Your rig looks too complicated!!!
With my Macgregor 26 I could just raise the mast by hand and have my wife secure the fore stay. For safety we rigged a couple of pulleys that pulled on the stay but it mostly helped while lowering the mast. Whenever there was trouble it was always something catching and we would look around until we found what was catching. Usually it was the back stay catching on the outboard bracket or a shroud catching on the trailer. Your rig looks too complicated!!!
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Tom s/v GAIA
Stepping the mast
When the mast won't go any higher hold it in place and have someone check the backstay, shrouds, halyard, ect. what ever is holding the mast down has to be tight. If you have more then one shroud per side the forward most (on each side) is the only one that should be attached. Let us know what finaly works. Tom s/v GAIA
When the mast won't go any higher hold it in place and have someone check the backstay, shrouds, halyard, ect. what ever is holding the mast down has to be tight. If you have more then one shroud per side the forward most (on each side) is the only one that should be attached. Let us know what finaly works. Tom s/v GAIA
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Bob
A rigging tip
that helped me was to tape the turnbuckles in an upright position prior to raising the mast - that way you don't have to worry about something kinking, at least not at that point. It won't keep shrouds from hanging on the trailer, though.
that helped me was to tape the turnbuckles in an upright position prior to raising the mast - that way you don't have to worry about something kinking, at least not at that point. It won't keep shrouds from hanging on the trailer, though.
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Dave Slepoy
binding...
On my previous Oday 222 I made a mast assist device. The side stabelizing lines are best located as close to PORT & STARBOARD of the mast step PIVOT point. If the port/starboard positions are to the stern the distance is shorter to the mast tie spot when the mast is part way up. If the port/starboard positions are to the bow then the stabilizing lines will loosen more as the mast is raised since the distance is gatting shorter the more upright the mast gets. the assist pole lenght is a mute point and not relenant to any BIND. Check the lenght from your mast tie point to the stabilize positions with a tape when the mast is up to confirm that the lenghts are the same. If the port side is shorter then it will bind. Dave
On my previous Oday 222 I made a mast assist device. The side stabelizing lines are best located as close to PORT & STARBOARD of the mast step PIVOT point. If the port/starboard positions are to the stern the distance is shorter to the mast tie spot when the mast is part way up. If the port/starboard positions are to the bow then the stabilizing lines will loosen more as the mast is raised since the distance is gatting shorter the more upright the mast gets. the assist pole lenght is a mute point and not relenant to any BIND. Check the lenght from your mast tie point to the stabilize positions with a tape when the mast is up to confirm that the lenghts are the same. If the port side is shorter then it will bind. Dave
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J Olson
mast raiseing
My freind has the same boat and he just has his wife pullthe mast up with the ancor rope from about 10' infront of the boat and he pushes hand over hand untill its up and then his wife puts the shackel on the forstay.Keep in mind that these people are in there 80s . I stand there mast for them some times if I am around . and I can stand it and put the pin in by my self before they can get out of the car. That mast is very light just push it up and go sailing . JOlson
My freind has the same boat and he just has his wife pullthe mast up with the ancor rope from about 10' infront of the boat and he pushes hand over hand untill its up and then his wife puts the shackel on the forstay.Keep in mind that these people are in there 80s . I stand there mast for them some times if I am around . and I can stand it and put the pin in by my self before they can get out of the car. That mast is very light just push it up and go sailing . JOlson
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