Has anyone removed their carpet headliner in their ODay? I would like to remove it and then sand and paint it. I'm sure the fiberglass is rough and will require a lot of sanding. My boat is a 272. Any tips would be helpful. The smoother the finish the better. Thanks all!
Cabin carpet removal on a 272
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I just finished mine. It was foam backed so after 40 years the carpet came off...not so much the foam. I used a bbq grill cleaning brush and it worked very well. I then vacuumed and put new headliner in. The brush took everything off and the hull is epoxied so it was relatively smooth just after the brush. Prepare for lots of dust.
87Roadracer I love that headliner keeps the moisture at nothing and it gives it a homie feel. Although, leaks, dirt and other things could put a damper on it. That will be a heck of a job getting that carpet off and the glue. If you undertake this project please take pics along the way. Remember you have wires running in the headliner so you will have to figure out where to hide them. Good luck.
I have removed the carpet headliner in my 272. The headliner was original. It was glued in with heavy, paste glue. It is hard to remove, but it is worth it, since the old headliner was foul and filthy.
You will need to remove hardware in many places, as it was installed after the headliner.
The underlying fiberglass has a combed, rough texture. We are applying foam-backed vinyl from Sail-rite. Unfortunately, the spray glue we were instructed to use will not hold it reliably. Some spots separate. Some don't. The combed surface doesn't allow enough surface adhesion for a low grip glue like spray glue. If you apply a headliner, use a spreadable glue that fills the gaps and is harder when dry.
The underlying fiberglass is so rough, contains combed grooves, etc, that we decided sanding and painting was not an option without some fairing first. We decided against applying fairing epoxy to the entire ceiling.
We are using some devices to hold the headliner to the ceiling: a couple overhead hand rails I have wanted to install, some trim, and some strip lights. We are still finishing the project, as it is either too cold to work on the boat, or it is warm enough to sail for all but two weeks at either end of the season around here. This season, we prepped two other boats before ours, so we didn't finish the headliner. What we have done is looking good. It makes the boat feel much cleaner than the greyish carpet headliner.
Thanks,
Andrew
You will need to remove hardware in many places, as it was installed after the headliner.
The underlying fiberglass has a combed, rough texture. We are applying foam-backed vinyl from Sail-rite. Unfortunately, the spray glue we were instructed to use will not hold it reliably. Some spots separate. Some don't. The combed surface doesn't allow enough surface adhesion for a low grip glue like spray glue. If you apply a headliner, use a spreadable glue that fills the gaps and is harder when dry.
The underlying fiberglass is so rough, contains combed grooves, etc, that we decided sanding and painting was not an option without some fairing first. We decided against applying fairing epoxy to the entire ceiling.
We are using some devices to hold the headliner to the ceiling: a couple overhead hand rails I have wanted to install, some trim, and some strip lights. We are still finishing the project, as it is either too cold to work on the boat, or it is warm enough to sail for all but two weeks at either end of the season around here. This season, we prepped two other boats before ours, so we didn't finish the headliner. What we have done is looking good. It makes the boat feel much cleaner than the greyish carpet headliner.
Thanks,
Andrew
I too would like to see pictures...we, for better or worse, I took another tack and decided to just clean the carpet...for spot cleaning we use a product called 5 in 1 which is a bleach product cleaner that takes every stain off....we have also rented a carpet shampoo-er and that worked well.....I do llike the carpet esp. because it makes the boat warmer in the early spring and fall.....I have a great dehumidifier I purchased from WM that retards any mildew growth....I leave it plugged in on the boat in the winter and use during warm rainy periods as well. Also have a 12,000 btu Mermaid AC that keeps
down the mildew in the summer months....good luck on your project! Pat
down the mildew in the summer months....good luck on your project! Pat
Of all the boats i owned. Which is many. Kenner 26, Newport 27, Ericson 27, Ericson 30+, Ericson 23, and finally the Oday 272. The best headliner was the Oday 272. Reason being kept the humdity down, dampened the sound, kept boat with a good overall feeling in cabin. Most importantly the boat did not drip in the morning from the moisture. The vinyl stunk, the painted ones created all kinds of moisture. I guess could have solved some moister problems with a DH. Not at the islands thou.
I suppose the carpet if severely dirtied would be an issue. Or molded really bad. That would have been caused from water leaks. Then i would probably take out. But i would reinstall carpet again. I liked the previous comment about the cleaning products. If kept up that headliner is awesome. My wife and I sleep on the boat every weekend so comfort is mandatory.
Good topic for sure.
I suppose the carpet if severely dirtied would be an issue. Or molded really bad. That would have been caused from water leaks. Then i would probably take out. But i would reinstall carpet again. I liked the previous comment about the cleaning products. If kept up that headliner is awesome. My wife and I sleep on the boat every weekend so comfort is mandatory.
Good topic for sure.
I think we wish we had reinstalled carpet.
Truly, keeping the boat dry is the answer in any case. We use a solar fan, and the boat stays dry. However, we are far North, in the Finger Lakes of Upstate New York. While we do get a big temperature differential and high humidity, the air dries frequently. We get days in the 90's with high humidity. Then a cold front will pass, temps will stay in the 70's, and the humidity disappears.
We love the 272, but the carpet headliner in ours was trashed. The Admiral commanded that it be removed... it was removed.
Thanks,
Andrew
My hull liner was mildewed, moldy and starting to separate from the hull when I bought the boat. I was able to rip it off without too much trouble and then sanded the old old adhesive off with an angle grinder with this- http://www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-4-1-2-in-60-Grit-Steel-Demon-Grinding-and-Polishing-Flap-Disc-with-Type-29-Conical-Design-DCX045060N01F/202830904. Then I installed this headliner fabric.
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I have done the same, though my carpet was hell to remove and the glue removal was an arduous task. Having completed this after completely gutting the interior of the boat and routing, filling with epoxy all deck hardware holes.
I am in the midst of painting the interior with a mold resistant primer, smoothing primer, followed by a quality gloss exterior latex paint. I was happy with my plan and somewhat with my progress until I read this thread and realized the function of the original carpet in wicking moisture away from the hull.
I really just want a clean durable finish that will not smell and mildew anytime in the foreseeable future. Realizing now the condensation factor, I am curious if any advice before I proceed further down the current path?
Would a solar fan create enough air flow to overcome the condensation? Wouldn't this be a similar issue on boats with only fiberglass shells or wooden slated across the ceiling?
Thanks in advance!
I am in the midst of painting the interior with a mold resistant primer, smoothing primer, followed by a quality gloss exterior latex paint. I was happy with my plan and somewhat with my progress until I read this thread and realized the function of the original carpet in wicking moisture away from the hull.
I really just want a clean durable finish that will not smell and mildew anytime in the foreseeable future. Realizing now the condensation factor, I am curious if any advice before I proceed further down the current path?
Would a solar fan create enough air flow to overcome the condensation? Wouldn't this be a similar issue on boats with only fiberglass shells or wooden slated across the ceiling?
Thanks in advance!
West marine makes one that is automatic. I hear it does a good job, it operates on 110. The one question I am curious about is how will you hide the electrical wires with no headliner/carpeting?
