Good morning, I am considering buying a 1983 C27. It has an old outboard and has been neglected for quite awhile. I noted alot of cracks in the cockpit floor and it appears to be quite boucy. Is this normal? I also noticed cracks just in front of the plate that the mast sits on, seem to be stress cracks is that a concern? Finally the head and the galley seem to drain directly overboard. Were the early 80 models setup this way? Is there anything specific to the is model/year I should look for? The guy wants $5000. Any thoughts? Thanks!!!!!! Tim Pinkham
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Get a survey!!! The soft feel in the cockpit sole indicates core damage. The cracks ahead of the mast can be crazing or stress, if they are stress you may have serious problems. From your limited post, be very carefull with this boat.
Get a survey!!! The soft feel in the cockpit sole indicates core damage. The cracks ahead of the mast can be crazing or stress, if they are stress you may have serious problems. From your limited post, be very carefull with this boat.
Head and Galley Drains
Many of the earlier Catalinas (mine included...1972) were designed with a direct flush head and the same applies to the sink. Am in the process of getting ready to install a holding tank for my head later in the year. It's not really a problem as there is normally lots of room for the installation and it's one of those projects you can do when you aren't fortunate enough to be out sailing. The price seems good but as John J said in his post...GET A SURVEY!..Yeah, they cost a couple hundred bucks but are well worth it. In addition, many insurance companies will not insure you without a current survey (i.e. less than 2 years old). Good luck!
Many of the earlier Catalinas (mine included...1972) were designed with a direct flush head and the same applies to the sink. Am in the process of getting ready to install a holding tank for my head later in the year. It's not really a problem as there is normally lots of room for the installation and it's one of those projects you can do when you aren't fortunate enough to be out sailing. The price seems good but as John J said in his post...GET A SURVEY!..Yeah, they cost a couple hundred bucks but are well worth it. In addition, many insurance companies will not insure you without a current survey (i.e. less than 2 years old). Good luck!
Great price for a great boat
John mentioned that there might be coring damage to the cockpit. If you're talking about the sole, I don't think there *is* coring there - at least not in mine. The cracks you see may just be gelcoat crazing and could be no problem. BUT they could also mean coring problems. A survey wouldn't be a bad idea but if you're handy and willing to learn, most problems can be fixed with a lot of time & a little money - oops! I mean a lot of time and a *lot* of money!!
Seriously, that's a fantastic price for that vintage boat. Have fun! LaDonna
John mentioned that there might be coring damage to the cockpit. If you're talking about the sole, I don't think there *is* coring there - at least not in mine. The cracks you see may just be gelcoat crazing and could be no problem. BUT they could also mean coring problems. A survey wouldn't be a bad idea but if you're handy and willing to learn, most problems can be fixed with a lot of time & a little money - oops! I mean a lot of time and a *lot* of money!!
Seriously, that's a fantastic price for that vintage boat. Have fun! LaDonnaSURVEY!
Like both John's say here, a survey is the way to go. You might be buying a 5,000 boat that is going to cost you another 12,000 to repair. This is not unrealistic. I was looking at c-27's, one cost 5500 and had the exact same problems that you mentioned, to a T. I walked down the dock, found another one that was 3000 more. I had it surveyed and have not looked back yet. Well, I did look back at the other poor C-27 about three weeks ago. It was sitting low in the water and my friend checked it out - had 2 1/2 feet of water in her and was taking on more through her exhaust port. If he hadn't noticed and contacted the dockmaster, she would have been under in another two hours.
Like both John's say here, a survey is the way to go. You might be buying a 5,000 boat that is going to cost you another 12,000 to repair. This is not unrealistic. I was looking at c-27's, one cost 5500 and had the exact same problems that you mentioned, to a T. I walked down the dock, found another one that was 3000 more. I had it surveyed and have not looked back yet. Well, I did look back at the other poor C-27 about three weeks ago. It was sitting low in the water and my friend checked it out - had 2 1/2 feet of water in her and was taking on more through her exhaust port. If he hadn't noticed and contacted the dockmaster, she would have been under in another two hours.
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