I've recently purchased an 84 C22. I love the boat but I have one problem that I can't figure out (probably because I'm such a newbie). When I tack, the jib shet knot always catchs on the shrouds which pretty much blows any smoothness out of the tack. I'm sure I just missing something basic here. Is there some nack to attching the jib sheets in such a way as to not create this problem (I have a single line with stopper knots at the clew).
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shroud rollers
3/4" light weight PVC to make a set of shroud rollers will help, I made a jig and used a circular saw to cut mine rear is 12" middle 36" fromt 48" they will snap right on you can use a round of tape on the tp and bottom to make sure they don't get poped off under pressure. you might also want to visit Lay Line's site they have a couple of ways you can attach the sheets to help.
3/4" light weight PVC to make a set of shroud rollers will help, I made a jig and used a circular saw to cut mine rear is 12" middle 36" fromt 48" they will snap right on you can use a round of tape on the tp and bottom to make sure they don't get poped off under pressure. you might also want to visit Lay Line's site they have a couple of ways you can attach the sheets to help.
What's the URL
Thank, I'll give it a try. What's the site URL? I'd like to take a look there too.
Thank, I'll give it a try. What's the site URL? I'd like to take a look there too.
Clove Hitch
Take out the stopper knots and try using a clove hitch or what some call a luggage knot. Both can be used with a single line. While both of these will have some bulk, it is bulk more aft and as the clew passes in front of the upper and forward shrouds, these knots will pass more smoothly around the shrouds. My preference is for the clove hitch. However, if this fails, the cut the line and employ bowlines which is the stardard for attaching sheets to jib clews.
Take out the stopper knots and try using a clove hitch or what some call a luggage knot. Both can be used with a single line. While both of these will have some bulk, it is bulk more aft and as the clew passes in front of the upper and forward shrouds, these knots will pass more smoothly around the shrouds. My preference is for the clove hitch. However, if this fails, the cut the line and employ bowlines which is the stardard for attaching sheets to jib clews.
good advice...
from bayard. I only want to add that you might examine your tacking technique. Many new sailors have a tendency to try and "pull" the jib through the tack with the new weather sheet. Don't do this!!! Allow the wind to push the sail through the triangle before you start sheeting on the new side. In addition I might suggest easing the loaded sheet a foot or so when beginning a tack, then allowing the jib to backwind a bit before throwing off the rest of the sheet when the nose turns through the wind. As Bayard suggests, you shouldn't have any stopper knots in the line. If you use his clove hitch or luggage knot technique there will be no impediments on the rope to hang up in the rigging. If you opt to use separate sheets, use bowlines with 6-10 inch loops.
from bayard. I only want to add that you might examine your tacking technique. Many new sailors have a tendency to try and "pull" the jib through the tack with the new weather sheet. Don't do this!!! Allow the wind to push the sail through the triangle before you start sheeting on the new side. In addition I might suggest easing the loaded sheet a foot or so when beginning a tack, then allowing the jib to backwind a bit before throwing off the rest of the sheet when the nose turns through the wind. As Bayard suggests, you shouldn't have any stopper knots in the line. If you use his clove hitch or luggage knot technique there will be no impediments on the rope to hang up in the rigging. If you opt to use separate sheets, use bowlines with 6-10 inch loops.
Here's what we do
Dan: The attached photo shows how we attach our jib sheets. The advantage in doing it this way is that the sheets can easily be changed from one jib to another, which is something that we do frequently. (My sons or wife change the sails for me). Another advantage is that when taking the sails down when it is really windy and they are flapping wildly, getting hit with the knot doesn't hurt as much as it would getting hit with a shackle. We don't have trouble tacking with this knot, even with our drifter, but we have been using this for 25 years, so I guess we would have had to figure something out by now. I just wanted to show you what works for us. I'll load another photo of this on another reply. I couldn't figure out how to combine both into one photo. Aldo
Dan: The attached photo shows how we attach our jib sheets. The advantage in doing it this way is that the sheets can easily be changed from one jib to another, which is something that we do frequently. (My sons or wife change the sails for me). Another advantage is that when taking the sails down when it is really windy and they are flapping wildly, getting hit with the knot doesn't hurt as much as it would getting hit with a shackle. We don't have trouble tacking with this knot, even with our drifter, but we have been using this for 25 years, so I guess we would have had to figure something out by now. I just wanted to show you what works for us. I'll load another photo of this on another reply. I couldn't figure out how to combine both into one photo. Aldo
Thnaks for all the advice
Thanks for all the advice. I'll try the knot approach first and then go to shroud rollers if I need to. I have a 150 Genoa so it come across the shrouds quite a bit. When it's released on a tack it just ultimately backwinds into a shroud and stays there. Hopefully the more compact knot will do the trick. Thanks again!
Thanks for all the advice. I'll try the knot approach first and then go to shroud rollers if I need to. I have a 150 Genoa so it come across the shrouds quite a bit. When it's released on a tack it just ultimately backwinds into a shroud and stays there. Hopefully the more compact knot will do the trick. Thanks again!
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