C-22 Handling

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Roger Cunningham

We're new to Boats this size (formerly sailed Lido 14). Have not sailed our Catalina yet (completing restoration) and I was wondering if someone can tell me what to expect as far as "heeling over" is concerned. How far will the boat go and have you ever experienced a "knockdown". Do they have a tendency to come back up easily? What can you tell me? We just want to feel safe and not have to fight to keep her upright. Also, is it really best to sail with the keel bolt locked down? Thanks for any advice. ..Roger
 
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LaDonna Bubak - Planet Catalina

Keel boats

I can't really comment on the specifics of sailing a C22 in regards to the keel bolt but usually this boat doesn't experience knockdowns unless it's extremely overpowered. You'll find that you'll go faster the LESS you heel, although it may not be as "exhilarating/terrifying". Keeping the boat balanced is challenging and much safer in the long run. Have fun with your new baby! LaDonna
 
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Jim

C22 Vs Lido 14

I used to sail a Lido 14 and although the principles are the same, the way you sail the two boats is way different. First of all the Lido 14 only weighed about 350 pounds. The C22 is 2350+. A strong puff in the Lido called for rapid hiking out and easing the main as well. There is not much inertia there to keep you from going over. On the C22 you will wnat to get your weight to the rail but the boat reacts much slower to the strong puff so you should be able to control it by easing the main. Most of the racers have the main set up with a ratchet block and a cam cleat coming off the center of the boom. That way you can play the main in and out to keep the boat flat. Speaking of flat, the C22 bottom is pretty flat compared to the Lido which is very round. Therefore theC@@ has a tendancy to stay flat as you will notice the first time you step on yours while it is in the water. I never set foot in my Lido more than a foot off the centerline when boarding from the dock! A big difference on the C22 is an adjustable backstay. If you do not have one, get one. In heavy air, you tighten up the backstay taking power out of the mainsail. You will notice a big change in your weather helm when you do this. You can also let the traveler go to weather to spill more air out of the main. Finally the Lido likes to be sailed on the verge of luffing the jib(pinching) and you always point up in the puffs. The C22 does not like to pinch as much and you always want to keep your momentum up because it does not accelerate as well. Both boats sail much better and faster when the angle of heel is small but it is a lot easier to control this on the C22, I have found.
 
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Frank

What to expect

I have sailed and raced my 22 in lots of conditions. I agree with LaDonna and Jim. The secret is playing the main and not getting overpowered. If you are not racing I would recomend not using your 150% above about 12 knots unless you have some rail meat or you like the 30 degree heel. I do not like sailing much over 25 knots because it becomes a lot of work. In races I have used my 150% up to around 20. I have never had a knock down that caught me by surprise and the boat does pop right back up. Going much over 30 degrees the rudder does not engage the water well and the boat will head up. The boat usually heels to 15 to 20 degrees and locks in. The rub rail is in the water at 45.The boat will not stay there long. As far as handling the swing keel allows the boat to virtually tack within half its length. This came as a big surprise to a Cape Dory Typhoon (full keel 18' boat) skipper who was looking to buy my boat and pulled the rudder over hard for a tack. We did a truly amazing 360 turn before I could say "what the He**".
 
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Tom

Pop Top?

If you have a pop top you might consider keeping it down until you get the feel of the boat. A knock down with the pop top up might not be where you want to be.
 
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Jay Beery

New Catalina 22

Rodger, I just bought my first Cat 22 myself. But lucky for me my father had one years ago so I have some idea of what to expect. Dad started me off in El Toros, then I had a Sunfish(sold that for an engagement ring), then I bought a Hobie 16. Nothing I have sailed is as slow and steady as the Catalina 22. It's like going from the speed boat to the Queen Mary. It does heel over but it's nice and steady and predictable. Not to mention dry most of the time. The lakes are just starting to melt here in Indy and can't wait to get my new boat in the water. I have been cleaning and waxing for the last two weeks! Good Luck, Jay Beery vettesrus@mciworld.com
 
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