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Feb 22, 2005
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Hunter 33.5 Lake Superior
Soon my wife of 35 years and I will be celebrating our anniversary with a week of sailing in the BVI. We can hardly wait. I have read through some of old posts but I am still interested in some fresh opinions and have a few questions. 1. What are the chances my normal cell phone will work while in the BVI? (I have t-mobile). 2. I remember seeing a story about a some folks to who hiked up a trail to some high overlook on one of islands? Has anyone done this, which island? 3. Any advice on provisioning? We are going out through the Sunsail base. 4. Any favorite resturants? Why are they your fav? 5. I am open to any general advice too. Thanks in advance.
 
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Tim

Anegeda

I am planning on doing the BVI charter thing next year also. I just spoke with a friend of mine who did it and he said we absolutely have to do the trip to Anegeda. Very few people and quiet and definitely worth the sail over.
 
Feb 27, 2004
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Hunter 29.5 Lake Travis, TX
BVI info

The BVI forum on traveltalkonline dot com is the most comprehensive site. Spend a couple hours there and will know everything. You will have a wonderful time. We are six timers.
 
Dec 3, 2003
2,101
Hunter Legend 37 Portsmouth, RI
BVI Answers to questions!

1. Don't count on cell phone coverage on your phone there. Base operators prefer you use the on-board cell phone to contact them. You can also rent a cell phone by the week from some of them. You pay for the minutes. But reception is "spotty" because many of the anchorages are surounded on 3 sides by mountains/hills. 2. The hike was on Norman Island at "the Bight" anchorage. Jost Van Dyke is also a great place to hike, as is, Anegada. (I never hiked down there but saw these places). Ask around down there - you won't be sorry. 3,4. Check the archives. Opinions vary. 5. General Advice. Pack only short/bathing suits and t-shirts, (wear the shorts around town and a t-shirt, respect the local customs) beside what you wear to get there. You don't need anything else. And if you do, most anything is available to buy.
 
Feb 27, 2004
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Hunter 29.5 Lake Travis, TX
Anegada...

... is a must but maybe not on the first charter. Some charter companies won't let you go there on your own unless you are part of a flotilla or can prove that you have done it before. I think Sunsail is one of them. Over the centuries there have been many ship wrecks on the Anegada reefs. The island is so flat that you don't see it until you hit the reef. It is a very easy sail there but getting to the anchorage is very tricky because of the reefs. The lobster dinners and snorkelling are definately worth the effort. On a one week cruise time goes very quickly because at Sunsail you don't get leave on the first day until at least noon because of the mandatory Captain's briefing and necessary provisioning and you have to be back by noon on the last day. So, I would recommend going to Anegada the next time because it's a day over and a day back leaving only 3 days to see everything else and there is alot to see and do. Our first charter was for one week and we felt it was far too short. Since then it's been 10 day charters plus arriving one day before to windup and leaving one day later to unwind.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Been ther 3X

I have always done my own provisioning. I like to mix it up with the locals. Favorite places: one has to hit Foxys at Jost Van Dyke, but foxy's Taboo on the east end of the island is very nice with a neat walk to the "pool". I highly recommend that stop. Peter island is finally opened to the public. Great Harbor has a very nice beach club that put on a great pig roast buffet for $26 a person. It was more than worth it. Marina Key has good entertainment, but Trellis Bay has a great restaurant on an island whose name escapes me. Both are very close together so one will probably only do one or the other. Also, the caves at the Bight are great snorkeling and one should also certainly stop at the Baths. Otherwise, go with the wind. We were there in Jan and it was windy and very rough. Hopefully you will have less winds and calmer seas.
 
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Fred

On # 5 - general advice......

.....take care of the Mrs. Thank her for going on a sailing trip with you. She is a keeper, but I'm sure you realize this. Congrats on 35 years. I am 14 behind you.
 
Dec 3, 2003
2,101
Hunter Legend 37 Portsmouth, RI
Go To Anegada, But...

...plan to arrive at Anegada by noon. Leave Bitter end or VG Yacht harbor by 9:00 and all will be OK to arrive by noon (about 3 hours). You will see better at mid-day. All boats are now equipped with GPS. The company will give you the channel approach buoy coords at the briefing. Be sure to get permission to go. Plan to spend the night and be out by noon the next day. I sailed back to Marina Key and had plenty of time, but had to anchor there because the moorings were taken there.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
GPS - not always

Just rented a Hunter 38.5 from TMM that had no GPS.
 
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Gary Sisson

Anegeda=not too interesting(in my opinion)

Anegeda (again in my opinion) is not too interesting. However, maybe something one would want to see one time. Check out the goats and cows as they are about the most interesting thing I saw except the beaches on the windward side are beautiful.
 

Bob M.

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Dec 29, 2007
34
Catalina 30 TRBS Chicago
BVI questions and answers

My wife and I have done the BVI charter about 7 times. We'll be going again in a couple of weeks. CELL PHONES: The rental phones in the BVI will cost $2 per minute for out of area calls. I don't remember if the cost is the same for local calls, but it might be. I took my Cingular phone down there, after registering for BVI roaming before leaving ($5 per month). Cellular calls were still $2 per minute (would have been $3 otherwise!). It will be better next year, as the government has finally agreed to allow competition in the market. If your cellular plan includes nonlocal calls when at home, it will also allow them with no extra charge if you can pick up the towers in the USVI. You will probably be able to do that in Cane Garden Bay, Soper's Hole, perhaps Jost Van Dyke. TRAIL: A nice trail leads to the top of a high hill/ridge on Norman Island, with a great view. PROVISIONING: We've tried various ways. Letting Sunsail do it is the easiest, but will cost more. Doing it yourself, if you will have time, is now more possible since the Sunsail base moved to Wickam's Cay at Road Town. Or, there are online companies from whom you can order in advance, such as at amplehamper.com. Expect them to make a few substitutions if what you asked for isn't available. FAVORITE RESTAURANTS: Try Eclipse at Penn's Landing in Fat Hog's Bay. A bit more expensive, but the food is more interesting and better quality. Also nearby is Fat Hog Bob's, which is famous for ribs and such, but has a good overall menu and a wonderful nighttime seaside view. If you are lucky you will be able to watch the moon rise over the southern islands of the Drake Channel. In Cane Garden Bay, Myett's is dependable and a bit above the average for the BVI. Foxy's Taboo is better than Foxy's on Jost Van Dyke. At Anegada, try Neptune's Cove for freshly caught fish instead of lobster. GENERAL ADVICE: I will underscore what has already been said about getting to your daily destination no later than about 3 p.m. The mooring balls get taken up quickly, and some of the anchorages have little room or poor quality seabed for anchoring. Besides, you want your wife to enjoy a night's sleep instead of having to get up and check things every time the wind comes up. Weather in March should be very good, but that doesn't mean you won't encounter a short squall or two. Try out your reefing gear before you need to use it. Get your sunscreen on early, as it doesn't take long at all to start a sunburning. Finally, the local people in the BVI often find Americans rude, because we often just start out a conversation by asking for what we want. In the BVI, the way to do things is to say hello, how are you today, comment upon the weather, etc., and THEN start your transaction. This will make a big difference in how you are received. Have fun!
 
May 24, 2007
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Catalina 350 Herrington Harbor
Have you many-timers tried other destinations?

This is not meant to be a criticism, but have you folks that have been to the BVI's 6, 7, or 8 times tried other places to charter? The BVI's are beautiful and an especially good place for the first-time Caribbean charter, but after 4 trips there I was ready to branch out. For me, it has become a bit too much like a charter boat Disneyland, or the aquatic version of bar hopping. Fun, but crowded and not quite genuine. On my first trip in 1994, Norman Island was uninhabited and quiet enough to hear the wild goats on the hillsides (OK, and a few drunks jumping off the original Billy Thornton before they scuttled it). I have nothing against beach bars, but they definitely change the character of a place that was previously pristine. Getting a mooring was rarely a problem. Have you tried the Windwards or Leewards? They can be more challenging but more genuinely Caribbean, with each island having a different character. I especially enjoyed St. Vincent and the Grenadines last year, including the short passage from Bequia to St. Vincent in 10-12 ft seas. If the BVI's were the only place to charter, I would go back in a minute though. Even Keel II
 

Bob M.

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Dec 29, 2007
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Catalina 30 TRBS Chicago
Timing is the problem

Evenkeel, I actually agree with you about the BVI. I have continued to go there rather than other spots largely because of issues of timing. I like to charter in the Spring, because in the summer I'm busy with my own boat. The Grenadines are probably best around May, which is too late for my preferences. I would be interested in hearing more about the comparison you are able to make, especially since I've heard some not-so-great things about the Grenadines from time to time. Perhaps you can usefully let us know whether the negatives have been blown out of proportion? Specifically, I have heard that the "boat boys" can be a continual irritant in many anchorages. Also, that many of the anchorages are uncomfortably rolly. Winds can be rather high in months other than the summer months (somewhat true of the BVI as well). My charters nearly always have consisted of just my wife and I, and she is a little less interested in sailing excitement and more interested in a comfortable vacation. Even so, we are planning to charter in the South Pacific--probably Tonga--later this year.
 
May 24, 2007
49
Catalina 350 Herrington Harbor
Some Grenadines details

Bob: You and I must have read the same material about St. Vincent and the Grenadines (SVG). Before I went, my biggest concern was the prospect of fending off boat boys. In the end, the irritation was minor. Here are some suggestions: 1. Stay away from the coast of St. Vincent itself, except for the Pine Island cut and Blue Lagoon areas. Otherwise it can be difficult to anchor, there are more incidences of theft, and the boat boys are more competitive. See St. Vincent by taxi or Ecotour, then sail south for the other islands. We had a wonderful custom all-day tour with a taxi driver named King. What a gentleman. Ask around as everyone knows him. 2. In the Grenadines you will find boat boys (almost always in their own colorful outboard skiffs) particularly in Bequia and the Tobago Keys, but if you politely wave them off they will not hassle you. The most persistent ones are those who want to rent you their moorings. If you want to anchor, just do it. If you take their mooring, inspect it, as they are not all well maintained. We woke up to a crunch at 5 am on a calm morning to find a catamaran that had broken it's mooring chain and drifted into us. No real damage luckily. 3. Earmark some money to purchase a few things. It's not all jewelry and t-shirts-- they also have bread and ice, and sometimes fish and lobsters. If you find one you trust, you can make a special order for the next day. Support the local economy. Most of these guys work pretty hard. They are by no means panhandlers. The other thing to be prepared for is the probability of more "boisterous" sailing conditions. Between islands you will not be protected as well as you are in the Sir Francis Drake Channel. If the winds kick up to 25+ (not uncommon)it can get lively. My wife is a fair weather Chesapeake Bay sailor and she did quite well during one 20 nm run from the Tobago Keys to Bequia in 20-30 knots and 6-8 foot seas in our chartered 37 foot monohull. Just keep your schedule a bit loose. If it looks intolerably sloppy, just sit tight for awhile. Wherever you are will be worth staying. Some anchorages can be rolly, but you can usually avoid them with the help of the Windward Islands guidebook and an eye on the weather. We never had a problem. Having said all that, we enjoyed the islands immensely, particularly Bequia and the Tobago Keys. In the BVI's we never spent three days of our charter in one anchorage, but we did that in Bequia. Wish we had 2 weeks there. Most of the islands have a certain charm and genuiness that I think is lacking in the BVI's. Bob, I would have to disagree that SVG is best around May. March and April would be just as nice. Earlier than that and you may have Christmas winds just like BVI's. We went in March and encountered some wind, but nothing dangerous or prolonged. I could go on and on, but I'm already a bit off topic. Even Keel II
 
May 24, 2007
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Catalina 350 Herrington Harbor
Correction re: St. Vincent

I mentioned Pine Island Cut. That was an error. It should be Young Island Cut. Basically, stick to the south coast of St. Vincent. Sunsail and TMM are based there and it's only 2 hours to Bequia. If you charter out of Canuoun (Moorings) or some other island it could be worthwhile to anchor in Admiralty Bay, Bequia and take one of the frequent ferries to St. Vincent for a visit.
 
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