I'm buying a 1978 Cat. 22 and am wondering what kind of "hiccups" or recurring problems are associated with the boat. If anyone can help, i would be very greatful. Thanks
Buying a 1978 Cat. 22
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Catalina 22
Hi, I own a Catalina 22... Looks like we will be sailing in the same waters of Barnegat Bay. I enjoy sailing my Catalina 22 and I must say that it is a great boat for Barnegat Bay. If it is a swing keel model, which most are and I will assume yours is) it allows you to get into places that deeper fixed keel boats would have problems. That same keel can also be problem if not monitered and maintained accordingly. Some things I would look for... 1. If it is out of the water, have a close look at the keel pivot pin (forward end of your swing keel)... BE SURE this pin AND/OR the Pivot Hole in the keel is not worn. You may have to remove the keel hangers (what keeps the forward end of the keel suspended in place(there are two bolts on each side)), but it is worth it to check and if the pin is worn it is very easy to replace. If the hole in the keel is worn, the action to take really depends on how severe the hole is. Catalina direct (www.catalinadirect.com) sells replacement pivot pins and bushings that you can put into a worn keel hole to take up some space and to reduce friction on the lead of your keel. If you search on this forum you will see tons of info on this. 2. Also while you are down there, take a look at the keel cable and end fitting. Either one of these things can cause major damage to your bottom should it let all 600lbs of the keel swing uncontrolled into the down position. 3. I would check your deck for any soft spots, especially near any of the chainplates. There is not much on a Catalina 22 backing up the chainplates... in fact, chainplate fittings on the deck are backed inside the cabin with small washers and a nut that tightens the terminal... that is it... I recomend putting larger diamater washers to spead out hte pressure of the rig under sail over a larger area and to moniter the tension of the nuts to make sure they are not loosening on you. 4. Take a good look at the rig and standing rigging... How old are the shrouds (Original, ever replaced?) Definatly check for rust or signs of aging on the shroud cable and terminal ends... Since these keep your rig up, it is essential they are in god shape... As I am sure you know, there are a ton of things to look for when buying a boat. I could ramble longer about upgrades and maintence I have done on my boat, but I think that the basics to look out or are all listed here. Good Luck, and if I could help out further or if you would ever like to meet up out on the bay to sail with another Catalina 22, feel free to e-mail me at MBosi@hotmail.com You can also check out this site for the owners manuals and scans of the original brochures. http://www.catalina22.org/manuals/index.htm Mike
Hi, I own a Catalina 22... Looks like we will be sailing in the same waters of Barnegat Bay. I enjoy sailing my Catalina 22 and I must say that it is a great boat for Barnegat Bay. If it is a swing keel model, which most are and I will assume yours is) it allows you to get into places that deeper fixed keel boats would have problems. That same keel can also be problem if not monitered and maintained accordingly. Some things I would look for... 1. If it is out of the water, have a close look at the keel pivot pin (forward end of your swing keel)... BE SURE this pin AND/OR the Pivot Hole in the keel is not worn. You may have to remove the keel hangers (what keeps the forward end of the keel suspended in place(there are two bolts on each side)), but it is worth it to check and if the pin is worn it is very easy to replace. If the hole in the keel is worn, the action to take really depends on how severe the hole is. Catalina direct (www.catalinadirect.com) sells replacement pivot pins and bushings that you can put into a worn keel hole to take up some space and to reduce friction on the lead of your keel. If you search on this forum you will see tons of info on this. 2. Also while you are down there, take a look at the keel cable and end fitting. Either one of these things can cause major damage to your bottom should it let all 600lbs of the keel swing uncontrolled into the down position. 3. I would check your deck for any soft spots, especially near any of the chainplates. There is not much on a Catalina 22 backing up the chainplates... in fact, chainplate fittings on the deck are backed inside the cabin with small washers and a nut that tightens the terminal... that is it... I recomend putting larger diamater washers to spead out hte pressure of the rig under sail over a larger area and to moniter the tension of the nuts to make sure they are not loosening on you. 4. Take a good look at the rig and standing rigging... How old are the shrouds (Original, ever replaced?) Definatly check for rust or signs of aging on the shroud cable and terminal ends... Since these keep your rig up, it is essential they are in god shape... As I am sure you know, there are a ton of things to look for when buying a boat. I could ramble longer about upgrades and maintence I have done on my boat, but I think that the basics to look out or are all listed here. Good Luck, and if I could help out further or if you would ever like to meet up out on the bay to sail with another Catalina 22, feel free to e-mail me at MBosi@hotmail.com You can also check out this site for the owners manuals and scans of the original brochures. http://www.catalina22.org/manuals/index.htm Mike
Thaks!
Mike - Thanks for the info. I am also new to sailing, so any info is great. we'll see out on the water!
Mike - Thanks for the info. I am also new to sailing, so any info is great. we'll see out on the water!
Don't worry, be happy (now that you own a Cat 22!)
Hal, I have a '76 Catalina 22, swing keel, and have sailed her over 15 years with minimal maintainance (in salt and fresh waters). There just aren't many recurring problems if you use common sense and basic care as you learn her. Great family boat, tireless performer, takes rough water well, and loads of support resources. Would suggest you bookmark this site, get a catalogue from Catalina Direct (for parts and upgrades) and consider joining the Catalina 22 National Association with their publication MainBrace. Any questions feel free to contact me at Pairodoks@aol.com. You're gonna have fun! Ray
Hal, I have a '76 Catalina 22, swing keel, and have sailed her over 15 years with minimal maintainance (in salt and fresh waters). There just aren't many recurring problems if you use common sense and basic care as you learn her. Great family boat, tireless performer, takes rough water well, and loads of support resources. Would suggest you bookmark this site, get a catalogue from Catalina Direct (for parts and upgrades) and consider joining the Catalina 22 National Association with their publication MainBrace. Any questions feel free to contact me at Pairodoks@aol.com. You're gonna have fun! Ray
Some more tips
My C22 is a 1975 swing keel. I had to re-bed a lot of the deck hardware to spop leaks from entering the boat from above. i dis-assembled , cleaned, and re-assembled with 3M 4200. I also had to install a top on the 2 inch rubber hose toprevent water from rising up it when I backed out of my slip. If the wind was blowing hard on my stern, I had to throttle up the outboard, and gallons of water would back up the hose. It could also rise up the sink drain if the valve is left open. To seal off the top, I used a "Fernco" rubber cap from the hardware store, $3.50. I drilled a 1/4 inch hole in the end of it approxiametly where the cable would pass thru. I then slit it with a knife, and placed it around the cable, and over the top of the hose, then tightened the clamp. I also installed a CDI furler, and 150 genoa. I re-inforced the deck plate by installing a turnbuckle to the back of the bow eye. Catalina Direct sells a kit for that. I also had to re-set the windows to stop leaks. Again Catalina Direct supplied the parts. I put a link below for them. Good luck with your boat. I think that a C22 is just right for inland lake sailing. One word of advise, Reef the main sail if the winds start to show white caps on the water, and your boat will sail much more comfortably, and FASTER, than if you allow the wind to over-o=power you and stall you out with round-ups and knock-downs.
My C22 is a 1975 swing keel. I had to re-bed a lot of the deck hardware to spop leaks from entering the boat from above. i dis-assembled , cleaned, and re-assembled with 3M 4200. I also had to install a top on the 2 inch rubber hose toprevent water from rising up it when I backed out of my slip. If the wind was blowing hard on my stern, I had to throttle up the outboard, and gallons of water would back up the hose. It could also rise up the sink drain if the valve is left open. To seal off the top, I used a "Fernco" rubber cap from the hardware store, $3.50. I drilled a 1/4 inch hole in the end of it approxiametly where the cable would pass thru. I then slit it with a knife, and placed it around the cable, and over the top of the hose, then tightened the clamp. I also installed a CDI furler, and 150 genoa. I re-inforced the deck plate by installing a turnbuckle to the back of the bow eye. Catalina Direct sells a kit for that. I also had to re-set the windows to stop leaks. Again Catalina Direct supplied the parts. I put a link below for them. Good luck with your boat. I think that a C22 is just right for inland lake sailing. One word of advise, Reef the main sail if the winds start to show white caps on the water, and your boat will sail much more comfortably, and FASTER, than if you allow the wind to over-o=power you and stall you out with round-ups and knock-downs.
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