Broach-sail plan-CB

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Quoddy

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Apr 1, 2009
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Hunter 260 Maine
When I find myself in a following sea with high wind, on the edge of motoring, how should I handle it to avoid a broach?
The first question is about the centerboard. Will raising it (forward pivot type) help the tracking and prevent a turn as I’m pushed down the face of a wave?
The second question is about sails. Is it best to use a small amount of jib only, to help keep the bow forward, or some other plan?
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
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Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
How did you get yourself into this situation during small craft warning conditions? :)

My old centerboard one-design always handled better downwind with the board up just enough to keep it tracking, not enough to "catch an edge" and get rounded-up. You should be able to pull the main down without heading up and play a scrap of jib to take you home. The tendency is for the rudder to get overpowered downwind in a small, light boat.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Gunni has it right on. With the board up or partly up, the boat in the worst conditions that lead to broaching will allow the boat to 'skid' sideways rather than 'tripping over' the CB in the full down position, or 'tripping over the keel' on a fixed keel boat.

However !!!! if the boat is now skidding sideways, the effective water line length though the section of the hull in the direction of 'travel' (typically across the beam!) becomes the 'new' waterline length essentially based on the 'beam' dimension and the so-called hull speed goes down (by approx. one third) and the boat can radically heel over to leeward, then recover and if the wave formation is 'correct' at this instant the boat then can "broach to windward" because of the radical formed 'bow wave' due to the vastly reduced waterline length from the 'skid'!!!!!
With a CB boat with board up, etc. when one feels a broach coming through the increasing helm pressure 'warning' ... do anything possible to bear-OFF straight down wind and 'hold on' while attempting to keep the boat 'directly UNDER' the mast, in such blammo conditions if you dont keep the boat 'under' the mast (including when 'pitching') you increase the risk of broaching.


The effect of the mainsail when going downwind is that of a 'lever', a lever that can be at up to 90° to the boats centerline and which tends to turn the boat because of its 'lever arm'. Reefing also reduces the 'lever arm' as well as 'depowers' the force of the lever as well as the forward speed. Dousing the main reduces the 'lever arm' to 'nil'.

Having just a small jib only with main doused to hold the bow 'somewhat' downwind is good practice. However once you go much above 'hull speed' and the boat is radically 'plunging and burying' into wave faces and momentarily stopping while the small jib is still 'driving hard', still can lead to a broach (or a pitch pole) ... at these times its better to 'head up' ontp a more broad reach, call it quits and heave-to; or, simply 'run' with bare poles.

In broaching, the boat is typically attempting to go faster than its so-called hull speed and is creating a 'great resistance' on the hull in doing so ... and the action of the sails, principally the mainsail's 'lever arm' in reaction to the wind forces attempts to get the sails/mast, etc. into a more 'equilbrium stable' attitude: .........the sails/mast, etc. downwind and 'in front' of the boat, and the 'lever arm' by turning the boat into a 'broach', a pitch-pole (broaching through the vertical plane), ..... or into a 'submarine'.

Know your 'hull speed' and try not exceed it when in blammo conditions, ..... unless you can keep a boat 'planing' without 'death wobbling'. The problem with 'planing' is if the conditions get 'worse', you will have to 'turn through' the wind to heave-to, or douse, etc. and thats when you can get into 'real trouble' as well as 'shredding the jib', etc. Not exceeding much above hull speed is good practice for 'safety' on just about any sailboat when in 'tough' conditions.
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
1,479
Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
If I am not mistaken I believe that the H 260 was Hunters answer to the MacGregor 26 S and is water ballasted?
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=6199
Also the draft when the board is up is quite shallow at just under 2'.
I can't believe that the center board raises towards the bow as the settings between fully deployed and fully tucked away are quite useful when the board folds in towards the stern. In this manner, partially raising the center board moves the center of lateral resistance (CLR) aft while the center of effort (CE) will be dictated by what sails you are carrying. Using only the jib should move the CE forward to help keep you pointed downwind with the board partially (or mostly) raised.
As RichH noted you can also broach with just a jib if conditions are 'blammo'.
I think I'd prefer to broad reach rather then attempt to go dead down wind (DDW) in the situation you described.
This article describes the CE/CLR mumbo jumbo better then I do: http://www.jordanyachts.com/archives/4023

Sounds like you are having fun with your H260.
 
Oct 6, 2008
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Hunter, Island Packet, Catalina, San Juan 26,38,22,23 Kettle Falls, Washington
Our Hunter 26, water ballasted, had the same centerboard set-up as the 260. It is pivotted at the front and the blade raises to the rear as with every other centerboard I have heard about. The 26 and 260 hold 800 gal of water which is about 2000# or 1 ton. The Mac holds about 750 to 800# which makes them a little more tender, and a bit faster, than the H26.
Hope that helps clear the confusion about the CB.
Ray
 
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